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I made the trip back to 1800 many years ago. I used a Daisy Red Rider in .177 caliber when I went...
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If you don't know where you are going to end up and the chances of Big Bear Country or Africa are equal to anyplace else, it seems to me to be crazy to take anything that might be found wanting in those areas.
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I think the OP said north america, and for food. Since food storage in those days was horrific, I figured most food would be small game with occasional large game hence the 223 selection. also, can carry lots of ammo if needed. a 22 win mag rimfire would be a close second. If small game was off the menue and dangerous game was on it, 375 or 416 would be in order.
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I made the trip back to 1800 many years ago. I used a Daisy Red Rider in .177 caliber when I went... Good Choice!!! ![[Linked Image]](http://dogsdoom.com/PI/RedRyder.jpg)
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Given the parameters:
USA in 1800
alone, with no need for human self-defense
must carry all ammo
to obtain food
to defend against wild animals
Answer = .223 Remington
Caveat = need Barnes TSX bullets, otherwise chambering changes
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If you don't know where you are going to end up and the chances of Big Bear Country or Africa are equal to anyplace else, it seems to me to be crazy to take anything that might be found wanting in those areas.
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I think the OP said north america, and for food. Since food storage in those days was horrific, I figured most food would be small game with occasional large game hence the 223 selection. also, can carry lots of ammo if needed. a 22 win mag rimfire would be a close second. If small game was off the menue and dangerous game was on it, 375 or 416 would be in order. "... Someplace in the lower 48 or Alaska. You will need the rifle to get food and defend yourself against animals ..." OK, scratch Africa...
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.223 Nice thread, started in 2001. This topic has legs! 
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