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Hi Guys, I am just wondering what everyone's thought's on the 300rum are. There seems to be a lot of talk about the 338cal as being a good long ranger, but the 300rum to my mind get's very little air time by comparison. I would have thought the Sierra 240grain bullet would be very effective and should be launched from the rum with enough velocity to make it useful. The other side of the equation is just how much recoil is generated from the 300. Is it still doable without a muzzlebrake as the bigger 338's tend to require one, unless you are into self harm I'd be interested in your thoughts and experience. LowBC
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If you're going to be a serious long ranger, you need to practice. Practicing with a 300 RUM pushing 240s would be wayy too much recoil for most people and you'll probably end up with a muzzlebrake. If you're going to have a muzzlebrake anyway, you might decide to go with a 338.
I generally skip the big 30's. I shoot either a 7mm without a muzzlebrake or a 338 with, but I'll admit that a big 30 will do pretty much anything that can be done.
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200 gr accubond and 95 gr retumbo = about +/- 3200 fps and recoil is tolerable.
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200 gr accubond and 95 gr retumbo = about +/- 3200 fps and recoil is tolerable. I have a NIB M-70 Stainless that I'll begin load development for in the spring, that's where I intend to start. BC is around .571 IIRC
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The 300 RUM is a great cartridge. It does require a muzzle brake for accurate long range shooting. It is capable of killing animals as far as a guy can hit them. With some of the specialty bullets out there it is one of the best long range chamberings. Like the 177grain GS bullet at near 3500 fps with a BC approaching .7. For a guy wanting a point and shoot flat shooter to 600 or so yards a 150 grain bullet at over 3700 fps is awesome. The 185 Berger with .549 BC makes a good mid range shooter that can go 1000 yards easily at over 3400 fps. I took deer and antelope in the 900-1000 yard range this year with a 300 RUM shooting 208 Hornady Amax bullets at 3210 fps.
For a guy wanting a one rifle do it all to last his lifetime the 338 RUM is a better choice because of the barrel wear with the 300 RUM. The 338 has much greater barrel life and can be loaded with bullets that hit harder at longer ranges. My Rem 700 with factory 26" barrel shoots the 300 smk up to 2800 fps and 225 accubond .550 BC at 3260 fps. These loads will outshoot the capability of the rifle.
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The 300 RUM is a great cartridge. It does require a muzzle brake for accurate long range shooting. Why?
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Unless you are shooting a 10 lb+ rifle, it's going to be hard to shoot it from steady field positions frequently due to recoil. I had a sporter weight unbraked 300 RUM and it smacked me harder than my 375 H&H did. I'm putting together a long range 300 RUM this spring. I'm planning on shooting the 210 gr VLD at around 3100 fps. I don't expect as much barrel life as a 338 but that is why they make new barrels.
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I have owned many 300 ultra's and the recoil has been very manageable. If you have to have a brake to shoot one accurately it may be a good choice to go to like a 300 win mag.Right now I am running RL25 with 200 accubonds,only need 17.5 MOA at 1000 yards.The recoil thing all depepends on the person, I have owned and shot 378 weatherby's,375 ultra's,338 ultra's,340 weatherby's,338-378 weatherby etc so the 300 rum feels mild to me but to others it could be to much.
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I have owned many 300 ultra's and the recoil has been very manageable. If you have to have a brake to shoot one accurately it may be a good choice to go to like a 300 win mag. The recoil thing all depepends on the person....the 300 rum feels mild to me but to others it could be to much. Yup
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I've only one 300 RUM, a M700 LSS. The recoil is fast, but not overly heavy, IMO. I love what can do with a 200gr partition or accubond at 3200fps.
I wouldn't mind trying one of the heavier, sleeker projectiles at some point, either.
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I currently shoot a 338win mag and don't have any problems with that, how does the 300rum compare.
With the velocities being quoted, are those with a 26 inch barrel or longer?
The rifle I am contemplating is a sendero in 300rum...is anyone using one of those?
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I currently shoot a 338win mag and don't have any problems with that, how does the 300rum compare.
With the velocities being quoted, are those with a 26 inch barrel or longer?
The rifle I am contemplating is a sendero in 300rum...is anyone using one of those? I have some trigger time with both of those, BC, mostly 225s out of the 338Winny and almost exclusively 200's out of the 300 RUM, both in rigs that go just over 9 lbs all up-in my opinion, the RUM kicks a bit harder, but not a bunch. If you can shoot one, you can shoot the other. And yes, the 3200 from my 300 RUM w/ 200gr NPs I see(over an Oehler Chrono) is from a 26" barrel.
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I love mine....200grain Accubond + 94.0 retumbo, yields 3150 and 1.5" groups at 300 yards. 350 yards...... Just ask those guys how much they like the 300RUM...... Tony
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The 300 RUM is a great cartridge. It does require a muzzle brake for accurate long range shooting. Why? I totally concur, the 300 RUM is a great round, and I in no way shape or form concur about the mzl brake. Brakes are for cars! Dober
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The 300 RUM is a great cartridge. It does require a muzzle brake for accurate long range shooting. Why? I totally concur, the 300 RUM is a great round, and I in no way shape or form concur about the mzl brake. Brakes are for cars! Dober Brakes are for cars??? well maybe maybe not but Dots are better suited for children's books.
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Dats for sure....grin
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I am on my second barrel on mine , they are good for about 1000 rounds. If barrel wear is a concern then I wouldnt bother getting into the long range thing . to get good enough you have to shoot. For me the only better option is the 30-338 or 338 edge. My 210 gr vld load gets me right a 3000fps and 1500 plus ft lb of energy at 1k.My friend is shooting his rum without a brake , difference is I can watch my rounds through the scope past 400 he cant. Long range guns are better off heavy. I am 6'4" and weigh 250 , i wouldnt be able to shoot as accuratley without a brake. A sendero is a great way to get started. We have killed critters past 1k and the 300rum is more than adequate for long range hunting. Here is mine:
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My .300 RUM isn't a dedicated long range rifle. It's light enough to carry, but scary accurate with a 200 grain Accubond and RL-25 moving at 3200 fps. I like the ability to carry the rifle all day, but also have the accuracy and range if I need it. Mine has no brake. That doesn't seem to affect my shooting, so it will continue to not wear one. Someday I'll find a place to stretch it out to 1000. Kinda curious to see what it will do. mtmuley
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One of the things I've liked the most about the big 30 is that to date I've not seen a factory 700 that won't shoot balls out. As 4 recoil, I've only shot the standard weight factory rigs and to date I've not found the recoil to be objectionable.
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