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Well this is probably a Campfire felony, but I copied these posts from another site where Mr. McMillan has been known to hang around a little, I think it speaks volumes to his character, and I don't think there has ever been a problem with one of his stocks that HE couldn't solve, got to get the man on the phone...........
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Member Rated: posted January 06, 2005 01:00 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kelly, If I were in your business I'd be prooud of a custom part delivered in 6 weeks too. I just don't want/need to wait that long.
Undude, Custom knife ( carbon blade or hammered steel) Make my own. Weeekend. Would you like ivory or Elk horn for the grip? Year for a scope..........got me there.......4 years and waiting with no firm date ever available. 1-5 years for a pistol. Nope, weekend............shoot with a bunch of high master guys who build nice custom units whilst I wait. 3 month 5 years for a rifle.............only if you have zero mechanical skills, believe all the BS that good rifles take that long and live in the city.
Sorry guys, grew up on the farm................do most all of this myself minus the stock making unless it's wood then I do that pretty damn well.....................I'm just that rare exception you occasionally run into out here in the woods.
Kelly.............seriously.............your stuff is Ok in my book. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 651 | From: Texas | Registered: Apr 2001 | IP: Logged | jhuskey Gunnery Sergeant Member # 130
Member Rated: posted January 06, 2005 01:04 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dead damn horse,
ANYTHING WORTH HAVING IS WORTH WAITING FOR. Especially a McMillan Stock.
Somebody beat this horse some more. Flatter, Flatter, Flatter.
.02 from a McMillan ADDICT. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 1381 | From: Opelika, AL | Registered: Jul 2001 | IP: Logged | NOBODY Gunnery Sergeant Member # 788
Member Rated: posted January 06, 2005 04:23 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- McMillan needs no defense.
Never has. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 1661 | From: The Last Frontier | Registered: Jun 2002 | IP: Logged | Michael N
Made me stronger Member # 2269
posted January 06, 2005 04:31 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I never said the McM wasnt worth what they are asking but considering I have 2 rifles that shoot better than I can in HS stocks I am going to save my 700 plus dollars and spend it on reloading supplies and match fees . If I ever get the chance to build a rifle from the ground up I will assuredly use a McM but until then us "Poor Folk" will make do with what I have and can afford .
I actually had myself worked up to selling my stock and replacing it with a McM but in the end just couldnt justify it .
-------------------- If quitters never win, and winners never quit, then who is the fool who said "Quit while you're ahead?"
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Member Rated: posted January 06, 2005 04:46 PM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael, Lemme know if you'd like to rid yourself of that PST25, ..............love 'em -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 651 | From: Texas | Registered: Apr 2001 | IP: Logged | kelly mcmillan Sergeant Member # 498
Member Rated: posted January 07, 2005 06:34 AM -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael, I'll make you a deal. I'll send you an A-5. You put it on your rifle and see how it shoots as a drop-in. Take it apart put it back together clean it, do whatever you want to with it. Take notes and let the Hide know what you find out. When your done, send the entire rifle to me and I'll bed it and send it back. I'll even put you at the front of the list as "advertising and promotion" and should be able to get it back to you within 2-3 weeks. Sorry, shipping will take a few days each way. When you get it back put it through the same rigors you did the drop-in stock and we'll see what you find out. Let everyone hear know, be it good or bad. And for your troubles, I'll let you keep the stock. What about? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posts: 175 | From: Phoenix, Arizona | Registered: Feb 2002 | IP: Logged |
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Like I said prior,stocks is easy.
McMillan or bust...................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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I think CAS got ahold of a bad receptionist...I wouldn't want to be her when Mr McMillan finds out the real story...
Who knows what she told Mr. McMillan to get the "Tough [bleep]" response out of him...maybe she was trying to cover her own mistakes...
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Well, I just got off the horn with Kelly, and I am still SOL.
Basically Kelly told me that their manufacturing process won't allow them to make a stock any faster, and I have to wait just like everyone else.
Now both Dick and Kelly have told me that there is nothing they can do, so I am basically screwed. Kelly said that they'd try and get it done as fast as possible, but if my stock misses the inletting run, then I have to wait for the next one, and it will likely be 8 to 10 weeks.
To be fair, he did offer to paint the stocks at no charge, but my guy wants no part of that.
I think I've just gone past pissed on this matter. Trust me, I am going to call weekly to make sure the order is right.
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Well, I just got off the horn with Kelly, and I am still SOL.
Basically Kelly told me that their manufacturing process won't allow them to make a stock any faster, and I have to wait just like everyone else.
Now both Dick and Kelly have told me that there is nothing they can do, so I am basically screwed. Kelly said that they'd try and get it done as fast as possible, but if my stock misses the inletting run, then I have to wait for the next one, and it will likely be 8 to 10 weeks.
To be fair, he did offer to paint the stocks at no charge, but my guy wants no part of that.
I think I've just gone past pissed on this matter. Trust me, I am going to call weekly to make sure the order is right. So much for top notch Customer Service... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> I do believe you are SOL....
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Wow, bummer...
I'm not trying to rub salt in your wounds, but I do still think Kelly and crew are good people, even if they made a mistake, I know I've made some dandies...
I wish I could help you, but all my stuff looks like it's been to battle and back a few times.
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For those of you who don't remember, I had to return 2 out of the 3 stocks they built me in the last 2 years.
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While they may be good people, it appears they have room to improve their business skills........Second generation, maybe they don't need to$$$$
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I sent a barreled action to McMillan a couple years ago for a stock and bedding. I wasn't too worried about it until 6 months had passed an I hadn't heard anything. I contacted Lynn and she said that she had the barreled action sitting in her office and she didn't know what the status was. I think it was set aside and forgotten. Well, 6 months after that i finally got my gun. They did a fine job but a year for a stock and bedding is more than I'll wait again.
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I agree, I ordered a finished Marksman through Lynn a few months ago. It came in last week and although everything is right it is the poorest gel coat finish I have ever seen. I will now have to paint it for the customer, which is thankfully my cousin, but he wants it next week for a pd hunt. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
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Damn! Has McMillan went to hell in a handbasket???
I've never heard so much bad press about them in all my life...
James
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WELL...
I sent a complete rifle already bedded and everything, even had a MK4 Leupold on it...sighted in no less, and all I got back was the sling...................................
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I don't care how much crying goes on here, I'm just glad McMillan is around to build stocks that work, if everyone else wants to jump on the milk jug wagon...GOOD !
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WELL...
I sent a complete rifle already bedded and everything, even had a MK4 Leupold on it...sighted in no less, and all I got back was the sling................................... Uhhh...A little explanation might be good at this point... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
James
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I will not buy another one from them. That I can tell you.
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Every company has issues.
McMillan makes the best stocks on the planet. Period.
I'll ride that horse, even when it bucks.
Rick
"What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as freedom should not be highly rated." Thomas Paine
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I don't care how much crying goes on here, I'm just glad McMillan is around to build stocks that work, if everyone else wants to jump on the milk jug wagon...GOOD ! I've owned more than a few McMillan stocks and have never had a problem of any kind with them but I haven't ordered one in a couple years. This may be a new problem...
James
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Uhhh...A little explanation might be good at this point... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> [/quote]
Cheaha, My thoughts exactly. I'am laughing so hard by your comment I'am about to fall out of the chair. Thats Great! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
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Explanation:
Just because there is a frenzy of crying on the internet, doesn't mean a guy has to believe it.
If a guy wants his stock bad enough to cry in public, then why wait 6 months to make a 2 minute phone call to confirm progress ?
I second what Rick Bin said.
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I'm not disputing that Charley had a problem, nor implying that he did anything wrong. Not all of my McMillan orders have gone well, but they've always fixed things.
I'm just saying that even with a few hiccups now and then, McMillan rules the roost in my opinion, and I will continue to buy them for myself and sell them.
Rick
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