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An Ice-pick/fist with a combined mass of 4000gr and a velocity of 90fps, and a pick diameter of 0.15 would have an E*SD of 2855. Pretty good for penetration. The mass and small diameter provides an effective SD to overcome the relatively low velocity.
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A rubber balloon of like dimension,would share that SD and lack the cure.
Love it when guys that don't shoot,pretend they do.
This is great!...............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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I smell "delete".
Laffin'............... Crying...
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""Energy" and "SD" are feel-good axioms,to satiate the clueless in their oblivious quest,to feign experience...less yanking a trigger and spilling blood.
Cracks me up................"
I can see and hear the cracks. However, no good treatment is available for you, I fear.
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Fantasy ain't a "treatment" for Reality sweetheart..............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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That's why you should still be searchin' for a cure. 
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Been dealin' the cure from inception.
I'm afforded the luxury of not being forced to guess................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Don't take much reflection,to note how things met their maker.
What color is your Cough Silencer?................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Well now I'm puzzled. What is a cough silencer, and why is color important?
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You've never not been puzzled and that's the allure of your Posting.
It's like NASCAR...you know the crash is coming,but never quite when............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Your imagination knows no bounds. Nor, apparently, your self importance. 
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And to sum up all this energy stuff and other nonsense does not require high intelligence or political standing. What kills things are holes in the right place, don't make any difference how close, far away or how much your big gun recoils. Them holes is what does it.
The Mayans had it right. If you�re going to predict the future, it�s best to aim far beyond your life expectancy, lest you wind up red-faced in a bunker overstocked with Spam and ammo.
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About 3.5 lbs. or so. I don't know what everyone else has their trigger pull set at but that's mine.
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Arrows kill them and yes putting holes in the right place. But when you miss the right spots, you need a bullet that will do lots of damage so you can still get the job done. Oherwise your having track soup for diner.
It is better to be judged by 12 than to be carried by 6.
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SD is as moot as "energy". SD doesn't take into account,THE most important facet of comparison...projectile integrity/construction. As per SD,ALL boolits of like diameter/weight have identical values,which is the grandest of ruses in their relative abilities,when extrapolated to eachother.
Here is the ascending order of what controls terminal affects.
1) Placement
2) Projectile integrity
3) Headstamp
You boys and your Fluff.................
The use of SD or similar formula as an indicator of "Killing Power" took hold from the old African writers such a Pondoro Taylor. Taylor's forumla has validity because he was concerned with "solids" and how they performed in big game, primarily elephant.. Trying to switch the formula's to something as variable as a softpoint bullet is an exercise in futility and over complicates a situation where experience and common sense should rule...
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Just seems like some where energy and mass count for something.
Time spent hunting is not deducted from one's lifetime.
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La-La Land perhaps,but in the Real World?
It's meaningless fluff................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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What color is your Cough Silencer?................ I hear they're the same color as butt-out tools, which can make for some interesting juxtapositions.
A wise man is frequently humbled.
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with soft pointed bullets your SD figures are [bleep] after hitting the first inch of flesh.....SD figures are great whenfiguring out whats gonna happen to a bullet in flight or a solid once it hits IF it holds its shape.....means very lil once a soft point hits flesh....once flesh is hit bullet construction is 100 times more important than SD.....
A serious student of the "Armchair Safari" always looking for Africa/Asia hunting books
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