Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire You views on the war on drugs.

My point was that drug violence is due to the drugs in question - being illegal.

How many people OD each year on burgers and ice cream?

How many people OD each year on meth/coke/heroin (yeah, I'll leave weed out)?

Now tell me-which one is more dangerous?

George

Drug violence is due to drugs. Will legalizing it make some of it go away? Maybe you'll do away with some of the dealer-on-dealer/gang-on-gang type schit. You'll still have Daddy Methhead tunin' the schit out of Momma. Those numbers will be going up.

George

the point is them being illegal hasnt stopped chit, infact use is growing.....time tor try a different solution, if that dont work try something else.....heroin being illegal isnt stopping heroin use from growing......stupid to keep throwing money at a solution that doesnt solve a [bleep] thing......

Use drugs, get a bullet in the ear. The might not deter folks either but will stop those caught from being repeat offenders.

I'll play.

How many people are killed by drugs every year?
How many people are killed by obesity?
The fact that some drugs kill quickly - while obesity kills slowly - is about the only real difference.

If you want a war - perhaps a war on obesity would save more lives.

I don't care if someone wants to kill themselves, slow or fast. I've not known of someone tweeked out for a burger slaying someone. That you miss the point surprises me none dumbshitt.

I believe it was Einstein who said "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".

I agree that it's time for something to change. I'll buy into the arguments that people (myself included) are sick of paying for dope heads to be arrested, go through trial, and then jail. Personally, I don't want to pay for the medical services they need either.

If drugs are going to be legalized, so be it. Ambulances and ERs shouldn't be dealing with the ODs if that's the case. Personal responsibility and all that...

George

I don't care about the "war" on drugs. If they're legalized I can focus on other issues that concern the citizens that pay me. The difference is, I have no problem walking over a tweeker ODing in his trailer. When society can let natural selection take its course I'll be happy.

George

I'm done arguing with a bunch of potheads about greasy food.

How many of your local elementary school kids are in danger from being killed by a druggie?

How many are in danger of dying early - due to how they eat?

I can't believe you miss the point.

The REAL point was - if harsh laws actually deter people from doing what they want to do - then the banning of junk-food - and the execution of people who sell such stuff to kids - will eliminate obesity.

If doing that won't work on obesity - you have your answer - to why it won't work for drugs either...

Because you now might - finally - have managed to figure out my real point - I'll take you calling me a "dumbshitt" as a term of endearment.

Same arguments, launched by the same idiots, same results, same moronic positions, same.......

I can't believe that you're actually trying to compare what someone does to themselves vs. what happens to others as a result of what someone does to themselves.

Let me be a little more clear:

I don't give a schit what someone puts into their own system or does in their own home.

I start to "care" when that private act starts impacting others. Where the rubber meets the road, that's the real problem.

George

Agree 100%

Legalize it all - treat addicts as sick people instead of arresting them as criminals.

People are going to do - what they are going to do. Law - or no law.

It's the illegality of the drugs that makes them expensive and it's what makes the selling of them profitable for criminals - the drug trade itself - might well cause more damage to society - than the actual drugs themselves.

And that's where we diverge. Treating addicts as sick people is now making it "my" problem. If they want to take the drugs, they can deal with it. If a dope head has insurance and needs medical treatement, so be it. If he doesn't and gets a bad fix, oh well...

George

Why treat? Let die. If they don't care I sure as hell don't.

Funny, that's how a lot of junkies already justify their behavior; claiming it's a sickness, rather than a choice, and I call bullshitt!..

Why treat any health problems related to obesity? Why not just let all the fat people die? Take one glance when they come to the hospital - if they are overweight - don't treat them. They made their bed - let them sleep in it.

No one held a gun to their heads and made those people do that to themselves either.

Oh - I forgot - obesity is a "sickness" - not a choice.

Okay with me but I'm not sure society as a whole is ready for it.

George

Okay by me as well.