Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Savage Collectors I need a .250 barrel

Anybody know where I can get one?

Needs to fit a 99F, and must have that swelled area just under the dovetail for rear sight. I think they call it a "boss", the swell in the barrel there?

I am going to re-barrel that 243 that has the wrong barrel on a 250 gun. I will first send the info to the research guy to confirm that it is factory mistake.

Unless you guys think it has more value as a documented factory mistake?

Again, anybody know where I can get one of these, from a parts gun or something?

Thanks!

If you think you are going to get documentation that it's a 'factory mistake' I'd like to talk to you about a bridge I have for sale.

Get it lettered before you do anything.

Trying to convert it is just good money after bad. Think about it...

If you were a handloader you could make cartridges that would fit it and that would be that. If you can't make good use of it, sell it and move on. Please...

Is that the one from Ralph?

It seems to me that loose 99F 250-3000 barrels are as common as the mythical needles in haystacks and hens teeth. I've had loose 250-3000 barrels from 99As, 99CDs, 99Gs, and 99Rs, but the only loose 99F barrels that I've ever had have been 243s, 300s, 308s, and 358s.

What do you mean by "that 243 that has the wrong barrel on a 250 gun"? Savage marked the cartridge the rifle was chambered for on the barrel, so a 243 barrel make it a 243 "gun" and a 250-3000 barrel makes it a 250-3000 "gun". Or am I missing something?

JEff

Sqweeler, yes, its the one from Ralph.

I want to use the gun, and it won't feed the .243 cartridges. Ralph can't find the letter that he received from the Historian. But, he says the letter confirmed it was a factory mistake. I don't want to sell the gun, and would not given it is not right. Everybody here seems to doubt that it was a factory mistake, but if Ralph says it is so, I am sure it is as he says.

How do you know Ralph? He is a great guy.

Send it back to Ralph for a refund.

You fell for that BS line??? Oh boy.
My bridge is better than the one listed above.

I guess you don't know Ralph, and you should not shoot your mouth off without knowing him.

First of all, Ralph gave me the gun.

He is a man of integrity. If he got a letter saying so, I would bet it is true. When I get it, I will post it here.

This ought to be good !!!!!!

It's funny how certain gun's and discussion's pop up year's later.There's an old thread or two about that gun buried somewhere.Here's a copy of the letter. http://photobucket.com/sqweeler i5...It's most likely a 243 bbl. on a 300Sav gun if you can get 243 ammo to go in the rotor as 243 probably won't go in a 250.That's why these letter's sometimes can be a crock of chit.It say's they lenghtened the actions for243-308-358 in 1957,but your 243 was shipped May,56.As Sarah Palin said..WTF

Thank you sqweeler!

Jed 1899, how would you like your Crow served? Suggest raw, with feathers to act as fiber!

OK, lets see where this leaves us:
It is a 99F.
Shipped in Spring 1956, but probably actually manufactured in late 1955.
It was made as a .243, in 1955/56.
.243 was introduced in 1957 for the Savage 99, and required the receiver to have more length, inside, to fit the .243, etc.
So this gun was shipped as a .243, serial numbers prove it, but the receiver actually is for a (prob) 300 savage. (Factory mistake)
And, it seems to have done this 2 years before the 99F was released in the .243? (Not sure about this part).

So, unless I read this all wrong, this documents a factory mistake.

Input is appreciated.

Lastly, Jed 1899, that might taste a bit better with some Ketchup on it. . . . . .

I know Jed and I know Ralph. When it comes to Savage 99s, doubting Jed's word is about the worst bet that I can think of. OTOH, if Ralph gave it to you, you're not out anything and if you can get JTC to confirm what you've been told, you've got a documented factory "oops" that might bring big $$ someday. When it comes to Savage, never say never.

JEff

Thanks for the input Jeff.

Given the letter that was posted here, don't you think that we already have it documented?

What more can be said?

I didn't see the letter.

I guess that anytime you get something for nothing you've got yourself a deal.

JEff

Personally, I wouldn't pay anything extra for it. But to each his own. Actually, the fact that the rifle won't feed cartridges correctly seems like something one would pay less for rather than more for. The fact that it was a factory error still doesn't mean the rifle will feed cartridges.

True, but it would be good if it could function beyond a single-shot.

I looked at some old threads here from Aug 2007. Seems that the feeling is that it is collectable, to some, and effort by those with more knowledge on the subject gave up.

There was one comment about loading a small grain bullet, that caused the overall cartridge to be shorter. Any thoughts there?

A 75 grain 243, seated deep? Wonder how accurate it would be given it would seat far short of the rifling?

Thoughts?

I would load up some dummy rounds with a short bullet and deep seat them like you describe. That should tell you quick enough if they will cycle through the action. I agree that trying to find a .250 barrel that would be correct for it would be tough. And I will say that with the documentation you have on the rifle, it might be collectable to some. Best case scenario is you can somehow make it work through handloading. You would have a serviceable rifle and it would stay the way Savage shipped it.

So if my attempt to hand-load short .243's works, I think my options are:

1) Shoot the gun with short .243's.
2) Find the proper .300 barrel and spin it on.
3) Find the proper .250 barrel and spin it on.

At least with these options its a shooter, and the gun is in very good shape.

I think you dwell on things to much!!! get a copy of the letter, put it with the rifle, in a safe, closet or somewhere and use a gun that works !!!!! JMO. Don

I agree with you Don but I would be probably be dwelling on it a similar amount It does occur to me that if he found a .250 or .300 barrel, he could always put the original barrel back on and no harm would be done - depending on how hard he hunted it

I'm not sure but I don't think a 243 or 308 would work in a 250 rotor.If the gun accepts a 243 in the rotor it's most likely a 300Sav [bleep].