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Are you mentally ill? The Republican party is not involved in this lawsuit. Only an idiot would blame them. The problem is that idiots like you and the progressive fascists believe that the law is for other lesser people. They think because, in their own mind, their motives are pure they are justified in what ever they do. The Nazis and communists had a similar mindset as they murdered 100 million people.



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[quote=ConradCA]Are you mentally ill?

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Originally Posted by Junior1942
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Junior1942 - Still proving to the world that your a dumb [bleep]...
It's "you're" and not "your," Mr Genius. If Obama is forced by the right to let drilling resume and we don't know exactly who or what caused the last disaster and another disaster happens, who's the "dumb [bleep]" then? Obama is doing exactly what he should do--find who or what went wrong the first time and fix it, then let drilling resume.

But maybe the Republican Party and the geniuses here could clean up the western coast of Florida if the wind and currents carry the next many million gallons of blowout oil in that direction.


You dont think that the Big O has to follow the law? That is truly frightening.



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Leftists NEVER think that they, nor their messiahs, have to follow the law.




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Originally Posted by VAnimrod
Leftists NEVER think that they, nor their messiahs, have to follow the law.


nor do lefties ever think truth, honesty, integrity or facts have any place in the discussion.


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Originally Posted by Steve_NO
one thing we know for sure is that the Interior Department doesn't know dick about drilling for oil. a piece of equipment failed....that happens, particularly at the extremes of our technological reach. but the spill of all eternity turned out to be not that big a deal....and we still need all the domestic oil we can get. the "moratorium" is a political stunt, and has zero to do with safety. it is based on lies, and BTW, Feldman ain't finished with this case by a long shot.
Exactly.. Your first statement can also be applied to every governmental office and/or official.. They're great politicians, but can't run a freakin' hot dog stand..

All they know is BS, raising money and getting votes... That's it..


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Originally Posted by Junior1942
Oldtimer, your "its" should be "it's." As for needing a comeback, I don't. Here's a scenerio for you guys. Let's say you build a new house. Up comes a thunderstorm, an average thunderstorm, nothing special. It blows off your new roof. You hire the original roofer, and he re-roofs your house with the original crew with the original tools and the original type shingles. Dumb? That's what you want Obama to do with a new deep-water oil well. They don't even know what caused the BP blowout, and you're saying keep punching holes.


It is not about building roofs on houses. That's so simple that even YOU can use it for an analogy.Drilling oil and gas wells ANYWHERE is a damn sight more complicated than building a house.

The problem was caused by a poor squueze job and compounded by not flushing the cement from the BOP rams.There were all sorts of warning signs which were dismissed.Now,you know more than Salazar and Holder about what happened .

At some point,there will be another blowout in the Gulf , just as there will be another Space disaster if we keep going there .

But the $$$$ BP has spent because of this will do a damn sight more toward decreasing the risk than all the Gov't regulations YOUR heroes could come up with .


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Who is the "They" that does not know what caused the blowout? The cause(s) are pretty well known.


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Yeah, but I'm bored with you trolling, so do some research on this subject and you'll see the conclusions...

Originally Posted by Junior1942
Oldtimer, your "its" should be "it's." As for needing a comeback, I don't. Here's a scenerio for you guys. Let's say you build a new house. Up comes a thunderstorm, an average thunderstorm, nothing special. It blows off your new roof. You hire the original roofer, and he re-roofs your house with the original crew with the original tools and the original type shingles. Dumb? That's what you want Obama to do with a new deep-water oil well. They don't even know what caused the BP blowout, and you're saying keep punching holes.


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Originally Posted by Flfiremedic
Who is the "They" that does not know what caused the blowout? The cause(s) are pretty well known.
Yep, well known but not proven. "They" don't even know why the blowout preventer didn't work. "They" are still testing it. Would you trust a new blowout preventer off your coast if "they" didn't know why BP's didn't work?

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Originally Posted by Junior1942
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Junior1942 - Still proving to the world that your a dumb [bleep]...
It's "you're" and not "your," Mr Genius. If Obama is forced by the right to let drilling resume and we don't know exactly who or what caused the last disaster and another disaster happens, who's the "dumb [bleep]" then? Obama is doing exactly what he should do--find who or what went wrong the first time and fix it, then let drilling resume.

But maybe the Republican Party and the geniuses here could clean up the western coast of Florida if the wind and currents carry the next many million gallons of blowout oil in that direction.


I challenge you to prove to me how much leaked out and what damage was actually done...no hyped up news stories either dumbass.



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First the BOP wasn't BP's.
Second, the issues with the BOP are/were known, and some of them are inexcusable BUT can you show any documentation of who is testing the BOP at this time? The root causes here are well known and documented. Everyone else has moved on from the mistakes with the BOP, and are focusing actions after the blowout...and those issues are more international and form around things that would have caused loss of life and property regardless of the initial root cause.
Second,per IADC, all BOPs are tested to new standard, and must pass more exacting standards...this is a world wide requirement/standard btw.
Third, what do you propose we do for energy and to replace petroleum products? Can you or anyone afford another gas crisis?
Last, as I said before, your trolling on this post is boring. Don't know you, and haven't noticed your posts/screen name before, but you come off as knowing just enough to be dangerous and appear to be doing research as you go or are using buzz quotes. Regardless, I don't really have any interest in debating this subject with you further as it's become a real "yawner".

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Who is the "They" that does not know what caused the blowout? The cause(s) are pretty well known.
Yep, well known but not proven. "They" don't even know why the blowout preventer didn't work. "They" are still testing it. Would you trust a new blowout preventer off your coast if "they" didn't know why BP's didn't work?

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Originally Posted by Junior1942
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Who is the "They" that does not know what caused the blowout? The cause(s) are pretty well known.
Yep, well known but not proven. "They" don't even know why the blowout preventer didn't work. "They" are still testing it. Would you trust a new blowout preventer off your coast if "they" didn't know why BP's didn't work?


As noted we could just stretch your fat mouth over the next one, it is indeed large enough.

You're trying to sound like you have a broad back round in Drilling Tech and Safety.

In reality you sound like [bleep]' moron.

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Originally Posted by Junior1942
I have a solution to the Gulf drilling ban. Since the government doesn't yet know exactly how and why and who caused the BP disaster, the president seems wary of letting BP, et al., drill again. It's simple. Just let 'em drill, and if another well blows out bill all the damages to the Republican Party.


Unfortunately members on your side of the aisle are bereft of even a scintilla of common sense.Here is a person with more common sense than all the liberal,socialists and communists in your Democrat party.


�Intense deep water drilling is absolutely not the recommended solution to fulfill our nation�s energy requirements. Sarah Palin admonishes radical environmentalists by pointing out that their protests and legal cases as well as lies about �onshore� and �shallow water� drilling completely closed any other less hazardous locations. Now, it�s coming back to haunt you.The devastating, unparalleled deep water Gulf of Mexico oil spill testifies that this is the case.


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Originally Posted by Junior1942
I have a solution to the Gulf drilling ban. Since the government doesn't yet know exactly how and why and who caused the BP disaster, the president seems wary of letting BP, et al., drill again. It's simple. Just let 'em drill, and if another well blows out bill all the damages to the Republican Party.


Unfortunately members on your side of the aisle are bereft of even a scintilla of common sense.Here is a person with more common sense than all the liberal,socialists and communists in your Democrat party.


�Intense deep water drilling is absolutely not the recommended solution to fulfill our nation�s energy requirements. Sarah Palin admonishes radical environmentalists by pointing out that their protests and legal cases as well as lies about �onshore� and �shallow water� drilling completely closed any other less hazardous locations. Now, it�s coming back to haunt you.The devastating, unparalleled deep water Gulf of Mexico oil spill testifies that this is the case.


Oh NO he didn't! shocked grin

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From a jan 2011 news article

Interior�s Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Regulation and Enforcement (BOEMRE) has not issued deepwater permits since last year�s BP spill, even though the formal moratorium was lifted in October.
�The main reason that BOEMRE has not yet issued a deepwater drilling permit for activity suspended under the moratorium is because not a single operator has demonstrated in a permit application that it has access to and can deploy containment resources to deal with a deepwater blowout and spill,� said BOEMRE spokeswoman Melissa Schwartz in a statement Tuesday.
Helix Energy Solutions Group has developed deepwater containment systems to address potential future spills, and the Marine Well Containment Company � which is a nonprofit consortium of big oil companies including Exxon and Shell � is developing a rapid-response containment system as well.
But Schwartz noted that deepwater drilling companies have yet to blend such plans into their permit requests.





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I realize that jobs are on the line here. In all honesty the oil production from the gulfs deepwater wells isn't real significant to our thirst for oil.

I don't know how many of you know this but the deepwater horizon was flying a foreign flag (just like most cruiselines) and I wonder how many other rigs are doing the same to get away from regulations and taxes.

Here is a pretty good article siting actual letters from Rep Charles Grassley to BP wanting some answers. It's pretty good reading....and I don't think any of his questions have really been answered nor solutions been found:
http://taxjustice.blogspot.com/2010/05/deepwater-horizon-grassley-letter-to-bp.html

It would be interesting to note where Grassley stands today on the issue....he sure wasn't happy last summer.

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I'll close my part of this argument with my humble opinion: It would be an act of extreme negligence to resume deep water drilling in the gulf using tools, techniques, and procedures which failed until the reasons for those failures are determined and corrected.

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