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I just bought a Ruger #1-S in in 300 H&H. I wanted a classic. Anybody have any experience with this round? I handload so I'm looking for some load infomation. My plans are to take it on a elk hunt.Thanks

300 WSM data will get you off to a nice start......

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The last issue of Handloader magazine has a very comprehensive article on the .300 H&H by JB. It is probably still on the newstands if you aren't a subscriber.

You can go to,,,reloadersnest.com,,,and in the rifle loads section there are 60 loads posted.

Plenty of loadings on the Hodgdon site too.

Just about all reloading manuals should have the 300 H&H listed too.

JB has written an article re the 300 H&H and has discussed it here.

65grs IMR4350 with 180 Partitions might not be a bad place to start. That's the max load in Nosler 6.

Just read the article in Handloader. Thanks for the replies.

It might but it is not necessary. Almost every manual has the .300 H&H listed.

To the OP. You will love it. My first elk was taken with a .300 H&H. The onlything I remember about the load was I was using a Speer 150 gr Flat Base bullet.

LOTS, of experience with it. I have a pre-64 Model 70. The loads listed in the various reloading manuals such as the one above using IMR 4350 are VERY conservative and mimic the purposely underloaded velocities that make the 300 Win look better. Every rifle is different, but I've settled on 71gr of RL-22 cci-250 primers and 180gr TSXs for an MV of 3000 fps and sub half MOA. What is even more appealing that at least in my rifle, all loads using 180 and 200gr bullets shoot to POI out to two hundred yards. jorge

I think the .300 is a fine round .but I don't think that there is some dark conspiracy by the powder /bullet companies to under load the .300 H&H.

Part of the conservative loading of the H&H in some reloading data could be the rifles themselves. The .300H&H was introduced in 1925. Lots of pre-war guns floating around. The .300 Win mag did not come out until 1963. Most of the rifles it has ever been chambered in are made from modern steel alloys..

No matter what the reason, various powder/ bullet companies DO publish hot loads for the .300 Holland at the same pressures as the .300 Win mag.

Hodgdon lists this pretty hot .300 H&H load, amoung others-

180g Sierra- 69g H4350 2,990 FPS @ 54,000CUPS

They also show many loads for the .300 Win mag load to the same pressures as the .300 Holland which show equal or slightly higher velocities . No "cooking of the books" needed.

I think that they are both, along with the .300 Weatherby, excellent and proven Choices in a .300 magnum.

I myself choose to shoot a lesser known magnum- the .300 Whelen Beltless. It's based on the 30-06 case and uses full throttle loads at 60,000PSI. It will drive a 180g bullet at 2,800FPS in a 24" or longer barrel with several different powders.

I think 2,800 FPS with a well constructed ,high BC 180g .30 bullet is good enough for most anything short of dangerous game out to 500 yards. At 500 yards, it only gives up 200 FT/lbs of energy and 6" of drop to the bigger cases with the same bullet.

BTW, the ".300 Whelen beltless magnum" is nothing more than a .30-06 loaded for bolt rifle pressures- not Garands.

Jim, 65gr of IMR 4350 gets you exactly 2880 fps. The original 180gr loading for the H&H in 1925 was in the 3k fps range. Wow, never heard of that Wheelen!

Sure you have...

Last line of my previous post..

BTW, the ".300 Whelen beltless magnum" is nothing more than a .30-06 loaded for bolt rifle pressures- not Garands.


The ".300 Whelen" code name for the .30-06 is a running joke around here...

My "beltless magnum" addition is simply because everyone knows a cartridge must have "magnum" on the end or it simply cannot perform at distance...LOL

I simply posted that text book load as a nugget to the OP. He said he is a loader but looking for info. Info is everywhere these days.

If he wants to run that load in his rig and over a chrono while watching for pressure he could probably get more out of it.

Duh!

My grand father had an old sporterized enfield that had been punched out to the h&h. His load was either 69 or 70 grains of h4831 with 180 interlocks. Not sure what primers he was using then. The gun would put them in nice little groups. Will add I am almost positive that the powder was surplus powder, so if you use this work up to it.

I have been looking for a .300 H&H to buy for my Dad. He has been talking about them for years, and has had a really rough past year. How are the Remington 721s? I have been checking gunbroker and the like a lot, and they are really the only H&Hs in my price range. I would love to pick him up a Model 70 supergrade or some such, but they are a bit out of my price range.

The Remington 721 is the predecessor to the 700 and is mechanically almost identical to a 700. They are good solid rifles and a .300 H&H 721 would be a great hunting rifle.

My #1 likes the Hornady 180 gr. Interlock over either 70.0 gr. IMR 4831, or 67.5 gr. IMR 4350 with a Federal match magnum primer. Both are good for about 3075 out of the 26" barrel, and three shots will all stay in a 1" square at 100 yds from the bench. Good enough for me, and I imagine any deer I shoot with it won't complain.

I had a 721 converted from a .30-06 by Ray Montgomery, and it shot very well with the Speer 200gr. Hot-Cor and IMR 4831. Can't remember why I let that one go.

I went to the range this morning and got 1 in. to 1.5 in. groups with two different factory loads. Happy with these results and have dies on the way. Thanks for the replies.

I have one of the Boddingtons, like it very much (fairly plain stock though). It likes everything I've fed it, with tremendous groups with 165 grain Nosler Accubonds, 67 gr/IMR 4350. H4350 almost as good.