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Here in New Yorkistan we have to have a pistol permit just to own a handgun, whether it's a carry permit or not. Might as well get a carry permit if you can. That was my way of thinking anyways, so I got one. Some counties give carry permits without much of a hassle. Other counties make almost impossible.

Same situation with me.

I have had my Carry permit since I was 19 years old (1968) here in New York. Web

Damned cheap insurance against a stupid ticket/charge; gives plenty of options, even if you never CCW.

Concealed Carry permits are the best way to make it to the government's "short list".

When they come for your guns, CCW permit holders will be the first........

In Colorado, there is currently a bill in committee that will allow citizens to carry concealed WITHOUT a permit, according to RMGO.



Casey

Dang, I actually agree with Acklybee.........





Casey

I have a CCW and like it.

If the goobermint wants you they already have more than enough information via other sources.

I wonder if presenting a CCW permit would suffice. It required both fingerprinting and background to get it.

One way to make folks want something is to deny it. Since Iowa became "shall issue" as of Jan. 1 of this year, there has been a rush to get permits. The most likely reason is pent up demand.

Reasons of principle aside, I like the conveniences associated with the permit, including such simple things as being able to carry a loaded magazine to the range, as well as bypassing the approval process for a purchase. Reciprocity is also important for traveling.

Paul

.....while in TAX HELL WISCONSIN you'll get arrested, handcuffed and hauled off to jail when attempting open-carry legally..

Only if you have bought firearms through an FFL in recent decades. Even then, that's a LOT longer list than CCW permits.

Most CCW permits go to the respective state law enforcement (usually your state Bureau of Investigation, then into their computer base, and is readily accessed by fed entities.

FFL transfers prior to the use of computers are generally still paper--sitting in voluminous file cabinets somewhere.......



Casey

Or to make it "exclusive". Making it exclusive creates a demand. Makes one "special"..........



Casey

nope not here in mo. done tried that they would not buy. only reason i have a haz-mat is for farm stuff, fertz. and anthidrous amiona (damn sure cant spell that!) and yes ccw permit for me and i do use it a lot

I have a Handgun Carry Permit and I do so.

Many thanks to president G.W. Bush for signing into law the Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act back in 2004 (which became Public Law 108-277, 18 U.S. Code 926B and 926C)

Now active duty and retired LEOs can legally carry concealed anywhere in the US under federal law and all local or state laws to the contrary are trumped by federal statute.

It was about time.

Well it's about time that there is equal protection under the law. I didn't see any thing in the 2nd giving LEO's more rights than us. Although I'm glad they can carry it makes sense.

Not all states allow across state line CCs MD is one of them.

As in New Yuck, Illinausea, Pissconsin, the PRK, New Jersey (enough of an insult right there), PRMass, Connectedschit, Turd Island, Whyarewii, and Whoregon.

Oh, look.... they are all (D) party schitholes. Go figure....

I beleive you are wrong about that. State laws can be more restricted than federal laws but not more lenient.so they can actually stop out of state LEOs from carring in their state if they want to.

Concealed Gun Bill Passes Subcommittee February 24, 2011)


COLUMBIA, S.C. --

A House subcommittee unanimously passed a bill Thursday that would allow any South Carolinian 21 or older who can legally buy a gun to carry it, without having to get a concealed weapon permit. The bill is called "The South Carolina Law-Abiding Citizens Protection Act."

Subcommittee chairman Rep. Thad Viers, R-Myrtle Beach, says, "We firmly believe that if criminals are going to get guns illegally, we have to even the playing field and allow South Carolina citizens to have a right to defend themselves as well."

Mamie Gibbs of Columbia thinks it really would level the playing field with criminals. "Right now, we have no protection against them and they have the upper hand in every situation as long as we are unarmed," she says.

State Law Enforcement Division Chief Reggie Lloyd says he has no problem with the bill. But the South Carolina Sheriffs Association does, since it would mean people who've had no training could carry guns around in public.

"It takes more to get a driver's license in this state than it does to carry a gun under this bill," says SC Sheriffs Association executive director Jeff Moore. He says he hopes some kind of training requirement will be added to the bill as it moves through the process. Having passed a House subcommittee, it now goes to the full House Judiciary Committee.

But Rob Butler, with a South Carolina group called GrassRoots GunRights, says requiring law-abiding citizens to get some kind of training before carrying a gun does not necessarily make them safer. "Increased training requirements mean fewer people get concealed weapon permits and therefore more people are being killed, murdered, raped and robbed and beaten," he says, since they don't have the weapons with which to defend themselves.

Rep. Mike Pitts, R-Laurens, is a retired Greenville police officer who sponsored the bill. He says it's important to remember that the U.S. Constitution guarantees not just the right to keep, but also to bear, arms.

"There is no requirement in the Constitution for training," he says. "Should a person have training? Yes. The better trained you are, the better off you are handling a firearm. The more proficient you are, the better off you're going to be when you're trying to protect yourself. But it is not a requirement."

He says Texas, Montana, Vermont and Alaska have no training requirements in order to carry and they've had no problems.

The bill would require someone to be a South Carolina resident and a U.S. citizen in order to carry a gun. "We don't want illegal aliens to get the interpretation that they can carry a firearm here," Rep. Viers said during the subcommittee meeting.

The bill would also still allow businesses to prohibit concealed weapons, as they can now. It would also be illegal to carry a gun into a bar, although it would be allowed in a restaurant/bar, unless prohibited by management.

The bill would also add five years to the prison sentence of anyone convicted of using a weapon during the commission of a crime.