Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Rimfires opinions of the Weatherby XXII bolt action rifle?

Actually I AM a BETTER BPCR shot than her. That is a proven fact.

She never got past AA class, I believe.

And for your information cretin, the last Nationals I shot in out of 718 relays fired on Chickens I was only one of THREE shooters to hit more than ten out of 15 in any relay. I did it twice.

I could also kick your wimpy little azz all over a Silhouette range with your own rifles.

Anyone like you who cannot figure out how to tune a .22 sporter is not exactly someone I am impressed with.

i have my own shooting range in backyard any time you make it to sw mo let me know come by and give me lessons

you talking how long ago ?

Pretty hard to give "lessons" to someone so dense they can't even sort out a Weatherby XXII sporter.

Or properly read my first post on this thread without wetting their lace panties and starting an argument.

I hate to interrupt but to answer the original question I have owned two of the Weatherby's and at least 3 other Anschutz rifles with the 64 action and I would never recommend these to anyone, the problem with mine was not really accuracy but function, particularly ejection issues. I did like the last MK XXII I had (it was most beautiful) but about half the spent cases would not eject properly so I called one of Weatherby's service center's, the one the Weatherby girl suggested and to My surprise the gunsmith told me I was the first person ever to call with a MK XXII that had ejection issues, as far as he knew they were all bullet proof, after this ridiculous statement I politely got off the phone ASAP and sold the rifle, I then swore to never own another rimfire rifle that has an Anschutz 64 action, that has been 4 years ago now and I am still keeping My word...............Hillbilly.

VA..

The "interuption" is most welcome..

The whole case ejection issue is the one consistent complaint I have heard about the Weatherby's and the m64 Annies and I believe it.

VA,

I did send mine back to Weatherby for service. They told me that it is normal. To ensure proper ejection I was to pull the bolt back "smartly". Seems according to some of the Annie folks at RFC, the ejectors "internal length" is about 0.010" too short and a wee bit of filing will solved the issue. I need to bust out the files and get busy. May take a while with my little jeweler's file.

A,


Ejection is not just the force of the bolt and the ejector protrusion but also the hold the extractor hook has on the case causing of to "pop" off the bolt fact at an angle allowing it to clear the receiver. So, the ejector hook tension and shape also comes into play as well.

Other rifles with similar static ejector types like the CZ 452s can give problems if the extractions hooks are not tuned properly.

Avagadro, I hope you get your rifle straightened out as I know how frustrating this problem can be, and once again you are right Jim, I have had a few CZ 452's that were afflicted with the same ejection problem...................Hillbilly.

hmmmm .... Marlins and Rugers are where I've spent my dollars prior to the weatherby .... never had a problem like this.

Ruger 77/22 rifles are a very good value in My opinion, every one I have owned over the years (4 or 5) has functioned flawlessly, I don't currently own one but probably will take the plunge for a new stainless synthetic model now that they have finally quit using the boat paddle stock..............Hillbilly.

That's because they have much longer ejector prongs than the little nubs seen in the m64 Annies etc.

I've owned plenty of Marlins and Rugers as well.

FWIW, even thought I have heard of folks with CZ452s that would not eject well, I have never had that problem with the dozen or so I have owned during the last 10 years...

I must be Mr. Bad Luck then Jim cause I've had two 452's and both had ejection problems...................Hillbilly.

I've never had trouble with my 452's and I've had one or two as long as they have imported them-probably 8 or 9 rifles over the year. I love 'em.
I guess I've been lucky. My favorite rimfire is a BRNO model 2

VA.

While I don't dispute the fact you had problems with your CZ M452s it was probably the way you are working the bolt- not fast enough or with enough snap. Some designs are more forgiving of that than others. The CZ m452 is not one of them.

Most rimfire bolt guns are not very forgiving in terms of ejection. They have very short bolt travels, not much room there to get up a head of steam for any real bolt velocity going rearward.

There is also not a lot of bolt mass. Both mean there is not a lot of speed/inertia when the bolt hits the bolt stop, etc.

More CZ m452 have made than most any other commercial sporting rimfire bolt action in the world. Over the last 60 years, the desgin has become the M98 Mauser of the rimfire bolt actions sporters. Many millions have been built and sold. They are highly thought of in spaces like Africa and Australia where they are worked pretty hard..They did not get that popular by being crap in design or workmanship.

FWIW, I can make any good 98 Mauser rifle double feed and jam. Yes- it is supposedly impossible, but is is easy to do if you short stroke the bolt at the right point in it's travel- which people can do under stress.

Sorry Jim, but the problem wasn't me not snapping the bolt back with enough pop, I called CZ and one of their smiths knew exactly what the problem was and sent me brand new extractors which were easily installed (even for me) and after that the rifle worked fine, I sold (almost gave)the other 452 I bought later that had the same issues to a buddy, I told him to call CZ as I had done before, CZ took care of him as they did me, as far as I know he still has the rifle but I haven't asked him if he has had any more ejection issues. I am not near the CZ fan that you are but I will concede that the CZ bolt action rimfires are some of the best values on the market, accuracy was good but not outstanding in the two I had but fit and finish was excellent on both rifles, however I won't own another 452, though I may get a wild hair someday and try a Mod 455 just for the hell of it.............Hillbilly.

VA.

OK, I stand corrected now that you have explained specifically what the cause was.

So they made a run of extractors that were out of spec, it still has no bearing on the basic design. It is sound design if built to spec..

There was a time about 4-5 years ago where I was hearing of spate of both ejection and extraction issues with CZs. MUst have been a temporary QC issue as it it not something I have heard or seen consistently.Especially give the more than 1 million m452 rifles made in just the last ten years.

And the effectiveness of any static ejector system still is ultimately connected to how one works the bolt. It is one reason why spring loaded plunger ejects were invented.

I'd say keeping quality control up would be a tough job for CZ pumping out 1 million 452's in 10 years, I know they are very popular, I don't know if their popularity will hold into the future though, I have watched the price of these rifles rise substantially over the past few years, they are now on par with Rugers 77/22 and others, I think CZ's very reasonable price point in the past has helped with popularity...................Hillbilly.

I agree with the price point thing, but the cheapest Ruger m77/22 brand new are about $550 street price. which is still nearly double that of the least expensive CZ m452 at around $300 (for the scout and trainer).

And price increases to the contrary, the CZs still seem to out shoot most any brand of gun in their price range and many costing far more.

Yes, I would also say without doubt that a CZ rimfire will out shoot everything in it's price range, when I say CZ 452 I am referring to the American model, I know they make many models of 452 some are cheaper than the American and they also look it, the only CZ's I have experience with are the American models, I would even say on average that a CZ 452 American would out shoot a Ruger 77/22 but in every other aspect I'd go with the Ruger.............Hillbilly.