Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Would Hitler have succeeded....

...If he presented Nazi-ism as a religion?
Remembering we were not so PC 60+ years ago.

He would if he had not tried to go in every direction at once.
If he had allied with Stalin, Europe and then Africa would have easily fell.
The UK would have sued for "peace " or starve.

Who knows when the USA would have been drug into the fray.

Thank God for our greatest generation.

Hug a WWII vet before they're all gone.

Let me re-phrase

If he had embraced the muslim religion and nazi-ism as one and the same.

If a bullfrog had wings, would be bump his ass every time he jumped?

Hitler failed because he over-reached and tried to fight 2 wars in 2 different directions simultaneously (Eastern and Western Fronts). Perhaps if he'd stopped at Poland on the Eastern Front (and not invaded the Soviet Union) and, then focused on the West (and defeated Britain), there might still be a Third Reich.

Germany was largely an agrarian nation with a limited population that was still recovering manpower from WW1. Attacking a large nation like the USSR which just sucked manpower and materials was not the wise military choice. It just drained troops, weapons and materials form the Western Front.

Had Nazism been presented as a religion has little bearing on this as the Allies did not fight Germany over its racial theories or even the horrors of the Death Camps. Rather, they fought Hitler because he invaded nations and threatened others.

There was no PC 70 years ago. We would have had more enthusiasm kicking the tar out of non-christians than the Nazis.

This is the house that looks like Hitler which has just gone on the market.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...Hitler-catches-eye-of-Twitter-users.html
Love this quote "neighbour said: �People are joking that the house is the third on the Reich and that we live on the Western Front. You have to see the funny side of life sometimes.�
Although I do like cats that look like Hitler!
http://www.catsthatlooklikehitler.com/cgi-bin/seigbest.pl
AKA Kitlers.....or The Furred Riech!

Here's some info for you.

The NAZI and ISLAMIC Alliance

Exactly if he had done everything in the name of Allah, and paced himself.....

I suspect that if Hitler had succeeded and taken Europe, he would have then turned on the Muslims. The majority of them aren't white and he, of course, was a white supremest. He was just using them.

The former is and would have been irrelevant; the latter is the point.

I have no clue where you learned anything about history, or wtf your point is, but the muslim thing is COMPLETELY irrelevant to WWII Nazi Germany and what Hitler might could have done.

You're making WAY too much sense.

In a sense, Nazism was a religion. Have you ever watched newsreels of the big rallies at Nuremburg? Hitler had many people almost mesmerized. Like mass-hypnosis. There is also ample evidence that Hitler and many of the top-ranking Nazis were Occultists. So what was presented as a Secular movement may truly have been a religious one.

The Muslims were just doing the old, "the enemy of my enemy" thing. They were manipulating Hitler while he manipulated them. Hitler and Stalin were allies before Hitler attacked him. Stalin was nearly frozen with disbelief for several days before he could react to Hitler's treachery. He thought they were amigos. Obviously Hitler was quicker on the backstab than Uncle Joe, which was disheartening to the Bolshie.

He would have failed because of his own obsessive need to micromanage everything.

He had talented people - Milch, Rommel, Guderian, the dude in charge of the U-Boats, etc., who knew how to run a war.

He had to tell them what to do, usually against what was tactically correct.

Ex:

"We need more fighter planes to counteract the US and British strategic bombing." "NEIN!! All resources towards the V-2 Rocket program!"

Interesting read, if one can discern the truth and objectives behind it. I would bet Hitler had a plan for the religious muslims when their time of usefulness had expired.

Remember that in WW1, the (Muslim) Ottoman Empire was Germany's ally. I believe that many Muslims were sympathetic toward Germany during WW2, at least at first.

As a nation, Turkey was neutral during most of WW2; but joined the Allies at the end (after seeing how the wind was shifting. Turkey did grant asylum to Jews who made it there.

He did embrace the Muslims, cooperated with them, sheltered the ones who had to flee the Allies, and used them as a Fifth Column to promote revolts in the Arab world, and in India. The Muslim Brotherhood was a tool the Nazis. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, for example, went to Germany during the war and helped recruit an international SS division of Arab Nazis. They based it in Croatia and called it the �Handjar� Muslim Division.

oops, sorry, Plinker...didn't see your post....it may have already said the same thing.

pretty much, to him defence was a sign of weakness, he often waited way to long before he allowed his generals to retreat from a chitty situation.....he was also way to focused on taking certain cities like Stalingrad which he felt was a symbol for the enemy that needed destroyed, had he just left Stalingrad alone and continued south like the original plan he woulda got the oil he needed.....

Stalin had weakened his military by killing a large percentage of the officers before the war. He wanted to ensure that they were subservient to him. That is the main reason for their abysmal performance at the start of the war.

Stalin was never anyone's friend. He murdered anyone in his country who could possibly be a treat to him. I am positive that he knew that Hitler was his enemy before Russia was attacked.