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No, this is not another "What's the most accurate rifle" thread. What I want to know is, what rifles are pretty accurate (not neccesarily one-hole groups) with several different brands/ weights of ammunition? Put another way, if you had to pull a rifle out of your safe to take a 300 yd shot with ammunition supplied by someone else, which would it be?
For me, my Vanguard isn't very finicky but isn't terrifically accurate with anything. My Kimber seems to be very finicky (but that might be operator error.) I've heard that Sakos will shoot nearly anything well, but have no personal experience. Ditto Steyrs.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
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My faux CDL .30-06 will shoot anything I feed it into one small group at 100 yards.
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if you had to pull a rifle out of your safe to take a 300 yd shot with ammunition supplied by someone else, which would it be?
I only shoot ammo made by me for MY guns.
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My pre-64 model 70 (30-06) shoots pretty good with ammo from 150gr. to 220 gr. My ruger hawkeye 308 shoots pretty good as does my winchester model 70 fwt 308 (made in SC). Like Tom though all of my rifles shoot better with their own pet loads made specifically for them.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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if you had to pull a rifle out of your safe to take a 300 yd shot with ammunition supplied by someone else.. Wouldn't happen.
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Any Sako I own. I have owned a bunch of Sako rifles and only have one that was finicky. It is a 270 WSM and its the only Sako I had to work at to get to shoot .5 three shot groups but it shot alot of stuff into a inch or so.
Keep in mind this was with handloads as most of my rifles have never seen factory ammo.
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One thing I might add is the rifles that are my most "non finicky" are the ones that I've bedded myself and have pillars. Got to start with the proper foundation if your searching for consistency.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I can only speak from personal experience, but I own a Weatherby Mk V Euromark, .416.
Doesn't matter what I choose to shoot through it- 350 gr., 400 gr., full-power and reduced-power handloads- most of the time everything goes into one raggedy hole at 100 yds.
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One thing I might add is the rifles that are my most "non finicky" are the ones that I've bedded myself and have pillars. Got to start with the proper foundation if your searching for consistency. +1 If a gun has good bedding and a good barrel it will shoot.
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Sako,TIKKA,Weatherby both Mark V's and Vanguards, Model 70 Classic Stainless and in that order
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Every Steyr Professional M I have handled/owned/shot has done well with many different loads. The .270W I currently use does group 130/140/150 in different little clusters, but all clusters can be covered with a closed fist.
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Anything in the 22 variety. From the 22 short, to the 223AI, 22's just aren't finicky.
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Anything in the 22 variety. From the 22 short, to the 223AI, 22's just aren't finicky. I've found .22 rimfires {including .22 mags} to be among the most finicky as to what they're fed of all the rifles I've ever owned. Besides that, I'd not choose any of them for shooting 300 yards at anything.
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One thing I might add is the rifles that are my most "non finicky" are the ones that I've bedded myself and have pillars. Got to start with the proper foundation if your searching for consistency. +1 If a gun has good bedding and a good barrel it will shoot. I'll add a +2 to this and maybe add regardless of who manufactured it. I've seen alot of very accurate rifles over the years that shot a variety of ammunition pretty well, I've also seen the opposite, the trouble was generally something minor that needed to be corrected with the rifle and or scope, and in a number of cases, there wasn't a MOA operator behind the trigger though they might like to think they were.
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I am shooting a blaser r93 and I've had a .270 barrell and am now using .243 and both barrels will put 3 shots under a thumb nail with anything you can throw at it
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O.K, here comes the blaspheme, but I would have to say the Browning Abolt would be a very strong choice. I have only a sample of one, but my A bolt shoots almost everything very well.
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Blaspheme #2, my Browning X-bolt shoots a variety very well. The various Sako's and Tikka's I've owned are boring in that regard as well. The Win 70's and Cooper that I own are more finicky but definitely worth the effort. I wouldn't trust any of them with untested loads or ammo as they may group well with a variety of different loads but POI will often be significantly different.
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I assume you are asking about factory rifles.
If so, I'd say Tikka is the rifle most likely to shoot any factory ammo you pick out sub moa. They are probably the least finicky rifles I have messed with from a pure accuracy with almost any factory offering standpoint.
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I'd say Tikka is the rifle most likely to shoot any factory ammo you pick out sub moa. They are probably the least finicky rifles I have messed with from a pure accuracy with almost any factory offering standpoint.DJ No question. Tikka's are the least fussy, most consistently accurate factory rifles I've owned. Mine are the older 595/695 models though and I have no experience with the newer T-3's.
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I'll stick with my old Winchester Model 70's... My old M70 30-06 isn't very 'finicky' when it comes to factory ammunition (as shown below)... I'm more into field condition accuracy than bench rest accuracy when testing various loads, and the closest thing I have to a bench rest is a sandbag thrown over the hood of my Jeep. Even so, the old '06 is more accurate than I am and produces some decent groups when using either Federal or Remington factory loads.
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