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http://abcnews.go.com/US/tucson-swa...ine-veteran/story?id=13640112&page=2

Always two sides to a story but they shot the guy 60 times.

I didn't see anything about the police identifying themselves in there........ what's swats procedure on that?

as so many times not enough actual facts to make a determination


but some facts remain clear


a man that served his country honorably is dead

there's a widow and two orphans left behind

police are responsible for his death

medical attention was delayed, though you have to wonder how medics are gonna save a guy shot 60 times


hope to God he was a guy involved with drug trafficking as the warrant suggested


otherwise how do the SWAT guys live with themselves if this was just a tragic mistake?


even more troubling, what if it was a mistake and they are able to clear their conscience by "hey it was just bad intel, the guy should have dropped to the ground"

how many of us with our doors being broken down would our first instinct be to protect our family?

even if it's the last instinct you'll ever have

This story really stinks.

I guess we just need to sit back, and let the cops kill us at their convenience, and never question what they do.

No wonder there are so many cop 'haters' out there, there is so much to distrust.

Here's a quote from the article -

In a statement, the sheriff's office criticized the media, saying that while questions will inevitably be raised, "It is unacceptable and irresponsible to couch those questions with implications of secrecy and a coverup, not to mention questioning the legality of actions that could not have been taken without the approval of an impartial judge."

Hey, sheriff, go [bleep] yourself. Raising questions is what the media is supposed to do, especially when the police are not forthcoming with answers and lie about this poor guy shooting first.

As for the impartial judge, he or she can only base a decision on information supplied by the police. I would love to see what that was.

Man, I am sick of these SWAT drug raids. I hate drugs and drug dealers but this kind of law enforcement has got to stop.

I don't think he was SHOT 60 times, but more likely than not, shot AT 60+ times.

Not that it matters.

�Government is not reason. It is not eloquence. Government is force; like fire it is a dangerous servant -- and a fearful master.� - Look it up

Initial reports said they did yell who they were. However it was also intitially stated that he shot first.
New details say the AR15 was on safety.
Also noted the SWAT said he yelled something to them which his wife which was hiding in the closet said was not true.
Too many details left out and not a lot of noise from the County. I think they goofed and they know it so they are doing all they can to find some sort of legality to it.

Either way sad situation for the wife and child that were home and heard the shots and seen the Marine flopped on the table gasping for air. Its a shame they delayed medical aid and I think thats a whole different law suit.

be interesting to see what the investigation shows. So until then I'll say its a sad situation regardless of what happens. If he was mixed up in home invasions and Drug trafficing, its sad a former marine would be doing that. If he was not involved in all that stuff, then it is sad the county dropped the ball and wrongfully killed a man.

Kique

Rasmacker,

He was shot at 71 times and hit 60 times.

No [bleep]. Lot's of cops enjoy enforcing laws infringing on personal liberties, and that's why there's a general distrust and dislike of the government and those who choose to be it's enforcers.

I'll reserve judgement until everything comes out but it's hard for me to believe a guy working two jobs and 12-14 hours a day is a drug dealer.

And they shot Bin Laden only 2 times what the F**** I want my money back>

Where TF is Sheriff Dupnik, and his "Outrage" about "Dialogue"?

Oh,....." No Comment"

GTC

Stand down, Brother. Semper Fi.

All other comments withheld....

If a guy deserves 1 bullet he deserves 60. I don't care how many times they shot him if he had it coming.

But loosing 70+ rounds in a house with a woman and child inside?

something stinks here..........

Just sayin you go easy with the most wanted man of ten years and you turn a taxpayer into hamburger WTF grab a brain man.

I would say that has alot to do with the men on the triggers and their training.

or the lack thereof.......

Prexactly.

I'll wait for more info but for now this stinks.