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Where's the adrenaline rush in that?

"Keep in mind that they were at that working class marines residence to serve a dope warrant. Not once did I read that they had the wrong residence so they were in the right place.

Dink"

Nothing illegal was found. Makes me think they were very much in the wrong place.

Yep, because the raiders wear masks and don't display their names as required by law. Pretty smart of them, don't you think?

71 shots fired inside a home where they know of a woman and a child. Nothing illegal was found. No knock warrant. A veteran. Guessin our sense of smell is different.

Can you get me out of it if I shoot an intruder 60 times?

That's it in a nutshell....

If it is ruled a righteous shooting,the number of shots is legally irrelevant.

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Jesus! An hour before medics were allowed? Wtf?

So it matters not for my defense if I reloaded my 6 shooter 10 times...

Exactly.

Oh yeah...that too on the smell bad chart

Don't want him testifying, don't you know.

I'm guessing the simple answer is that there was no rush for the medics by that stage...

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Are you making up facts,again?

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The simpler answer is it is always proper protocol to insure no more shooters exist before sending in medics.

So it doesn't smell bad that it took an hour to clear a house?..likely a small one.

There are some known facts:

Marine is dead.

Marine never fired his weapon.

SWAT fired 71 shots, despite Marine never firing his weapon.

Marine was in HIS HOME.

Sheriffs office has not claimed drugs were found.

What "facts", pray tell, would cause this to "smell good" to you?


Now let's just assume for a minute that this was the right house, the intel given the Sheriffs office was righteous, there was a cache of cocaine in a closet and the Marine was involved in trafficking......

The above scenario would make this a righteous shooting. However there are two very problematic issues with this event that cannot, under any circumstances be acceptable in this country.

1. 71 shots fired in a house with children, with no return fire. This is simply unforgivable and it is not based on assumption, it has been acknowledged by the Pima County SD.

2. A "no-knock" warrant in this situation, is unacceptable. Period. If you have the intel that this guy was involved in drugs, then you should also know who is living in the home and where/what time he works. If you don't, then spend a few hours finding out.

Only a complete [bleep] idiot would think it is more desirable to stage a home invasion where 2 children live, than to pick this guy up going to, at or coming back from work. Then you can search the home, with less potential for either his family, him or LEO's getting killed.

The Marine being shot while holding his rifle can be explained with missing information. The two issues above, cannot. They smell. No unknown information can make them not "smell".

Sorry jumped tracks on you...I was referring to my hypothetical shooting of an intruder. But were you saying if I had a 71 round magazine I can empty it into the intruder?

It's an 1800 sq ft house with 3 bedrooms. SWAT was already in the living room. Stevie [bleep] Wonder could clear that house in less than an hour.

No doubt thats a consideration, but it shouldn't take an hour to clear a typical house...Police probably did that, and then other normal Police stuff as would be required...

Getting the Medics to deal with the body would be somewhere down on the list of things to do, but no longer a priority...

Out of curiousity, do the Police use standard military ball in their rifles, or SP/HP ammo?