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Anyone know what time this happened? I have read morning but I am wondering if it was daylight or not.
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Anyone know what time this happened? I have read morning but I am wondering if it was daylight or not.
Dink Well we now know he emotional motivating factors of everyone involved...surely we can figure out what time it happened.
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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The Police are claiming that the deceased was a member of a drug/home invasion ring that had been working the area. The cops say they found body armor, weapons, and a "piece" of a cop uniform. All of which a member of the military might have,..except for the piece of uniform, don't know what that might be.
Dastardly!! The guy owned an AR and body armor. Wow..... available to every one of us from Midwayusa etc. My BIL has his armor from Iraq and a couple AR's. Who knew he was really gangbanger? I bet the AR forum here is being monitored and everyone there is on a list for a SWAT raid... Piece of cop uniform? Well, who knows what that is, but if it was something really damning, wouldn't one expect they'd point that out? Nothing would shut up the cynics quicker than stating that the guy had a PCSD badge in his drawer.
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This is a sad situation regardless of circumstances. I nust hope ther is an unbiased, honest investigation.
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The Police are claiming that the deceased was a member of a drug/home invasion ring that had been working the area. The cops say they found body armor, weapons, and a "piece" of a cop uniform. All of which a member of the military might have,..except for the piece of uniform, don't know what that might be.
Dastardly!! The guy owned an AR and body armor. Wow..... available to every one of us from Midwayusa etc. My BIL has his armor from Iraq and a couple AR's. Who knew he was really gangbanger? I bet the AR forum here is being monitored and everyone there is on a list for a SWAT raid... Piece of cop uniform? Well, who knows what that is, but if it was something really damning, wouldn't one expect they'd point that out? Nothing would shut up the cynics quicker than stating that the guy had a PCSD badge in his drawer. A pair of blue trousers?
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The Police are claiming that the deceased was a member of a drug/home invasion ring that had been working the area. The cops say they found body armor, weapons, and a "piece" of a cop uniform. All of which a member of the military might have,..except for the piece of uniform, don't know what that might be.
Dastardly!! The guy owned an AR and body armor. Wow..... available to every one of us from Midwayusa etc. My BIL has his armor from Iraq and a couple AR's. Who knew he was really gangbanger? I bet the AR forum here is being monitored and everyone there is on a list for a SWAT raid... Piece of cop uniform? Well, who knows what that is, but if it was something really damning, wouldn't one expect they'd point that out? Nothing would shut up the cynics quicker than stating that the guy had a PCSD badge in his drawer. A pair of blue trousers? Considering how vague they're being about it, probably a velcro patch base..... no Marine would own one of those...
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The real crime here is the use of the word trousers.
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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The real crime here is the use of the word trousers. LOL.
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I figured out what was going down by dinner yesterday and you guys are still flailing away with the guesses,huh? And now the cops are murderers,too. WOW.....we got ourselves some real imaginative dingbats here!
Not you FB,as you know.
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I'm gonna kick all your doors down this year in Beat the Penguin. Trousers or not I intend to collect! Especially from that Swamp Romp dood down in LA.
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Let'em go Bob...this may all come in handy some day. 
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I'm gonna kick all your doors down this year in Beat the Penguin. Trousers or not I intend to collect! Especially from that Swamp Romp dood down in LA. Pfffttt. You boys know who the 800lb gorilla is in that room.  Speaking of him, has anyone heard from Darby?
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Joe's managing one my LPE satellite offices in the Caymans.
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This is looking more and more like just another casualty of the drug war.
Sooner or later this war on drugs/terror is going to lead to a shooting war between the citizens and the government. Once the citizens realize they have nothing to lose the government is doomed.
Don't vote knothead, it only encourages them. Anonymous
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And now the cops are murderers,too. WOW.....we got ourselves some real imaginative dingbats here!
LOL!
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And now the cops are murderers,too. WOW.....we got ourselves some real imaginative dingbats here!
LOL! Eat it......?
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The real crime here is the use of the word trousers. LOL. Y'all wouldn't be laughing if you referred to them as "pants" ,or "britches" at MCRD in the 'sixties.A DI would "make an example" of you . Marines wear TROUSERS !
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...it appears there's some implied representation this dead man may have used police uniforms to participate in home invasions. The attorney for the heat said they seized what they expected to obtain during the search. We'll see.
I've refrained from getting involved in the snarling on this thread, for some odd reason... but referencing Bob's post, reading the articles, and reading the pertinent comments by my esteemed fellow Campfire members, it would appear that the situation was either: 1) an innocent, hard-working former Marine--which status conferred on him a degree of righteousness only slightly less than a saint--was illegally subjected to a SWAT team no-knock entry authorized by a suspicious and perhaps erroneous search warrant, and was then gunned down like a dog by multiple shooters without provocation, and everything the police did was immoral, illegal, and unconstitutional; or, 2) SWAT executed a search warrant signed by a judge, entered the subject's home legally and according to established procedure, were met with armed resistance by the subject, who was then fired upon and neutralized, and following which the evidence of crime the police and prosecutors expected to find was in fact found, and seized. or, 3) some version of events that lies somewhere in between these two extremes. Until the dust settles and the inquiry is completed, all the fuss and bother is kind of a waste of bandwidth, don't you think? Don't bother replying to this post. I'm not coming back to this one. It makes my keyboard feel dirty.
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[quote=isaac] it would appear that the situation was either:
1) an innocent, hard-working former Marine--which status conferred on him a degree of righteousness only slightly less than a saint--was illegally subjected to a SWAT team no-knock entry authorized by a suspicious and perhaps erroneous search warrant, and was then gunned down like a dog by multiple shooters without provocation, and everything the police did was immoral, illegal, and unconstitutional;
or, 2) SWAT executed a search warrant signed by a judge, entered the subject's home legally and according to established procedure, were met with armed resistance by the subject, who was then fired upon and neutralized, and following which the evidence of crime the police and prosecutors expected to find was in fact found, and seized.
or, 3) some version of events that lies somewhere in between these two extremes.
Until the dust settles and the inquiry is completed, all the fuss and bother is kind of a waste of bandwidth, don't you think?
Don't bother replying to this post. I'm not coming back to this one. It makes my keyboard feel dirty. Shot 60 times to "neutralize"??? And the Marine didn't even fire on them??? Kinda like the famous Jeff O quote of "way over penetrate"...."way over neutralize"....
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Shot 60 times to "neutralize"??? And the Marine didn't even fire on them???
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Yeah,SWAT and LEO always prefer the perp getting off a round or two beforehand....as a precaution,of course.
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