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Interesting that "a 300 Savage load" should be mentioned. Never thought of that tack. The 130 TSX is a deadly killer on deer sized game and can be pushed to 2800+ in my 99R with 35.5 of 4198. Yes 4198 .... whod'a thought ? Knocks Deer and Antelope flat. Yeah 99s work fine even "way out west". Might be a good start in that short barrelled Winny. Adult Mulie doe 80 yards offhand 99 R: ![[Linked Image]](http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z231/leadloader/DSCN2945.jpg) Pal's nice buck at 140 yards, 99 EG ![[Linked Image]](http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z231/leadloader/philantelope09.jpg)
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I noticed in my research that 760 gives top velocity, I do have some 760 here also, what do you think BSA, should I try it? Short answer: I wouldn't.
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Interesting that "a 300 Savage load" should be mentioned. Never thought of that tack. The 130 TSX is a deadly killer on deer sized game and can be pushed to 2800+ in my 99R with 35.5 of 4198. Yes 4198 .... whod'a thought ? Knocks Deer and Antelope flat. Yeah 99s work fine even "way out west". Might be a good start in that short barrelled Winny. Adult Mulie dow 80 yards offhand 99 R: Pal's nice buck at 140 yards, 99 EG Nothing wrong with the good ol 300 savage. I had a rem 722 in 300 and loved the little rifle. Very managable and very accurate. It was also great fun for practice because it was easy on the shoulder even with its metal butt plate  . I also have the utmost respect for the little cartridge as I know of some people that have taken elk with theirs around here.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Side side note here, but I see that my Horn manual lists 41.4 as a max with R15 and a 180 for a speed of 2400 with a 22" tube. And then the Speer manual has a 22" tube and allows 45 as a max for a max speed of 2613.
Question being, which of the two speeds do we use as a max? IMO 213 fps is a ton load of diff tween what a couple manuals.
Just a thunk
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Mark, seems to me the manuals that give pressures AND velocity are the ones a guy can reliably hang a hat on as to real-world speeds.
As an example, Hodgdon Basic Reloaders Manual gives 45.0 Varget with a 175 for 2,690 fps @ 48,600 CUP from a 24" bbl.
A 308 can certainly handle up to 51,000 CUP. It's pretty easy to extrapolate 2,600+ with a 180 bullet from a 22" 308 is a very realistic thing. I tend to think a guy can pile on enough RL15 or Varget into a 22" bbl'd 308 with a 180 to safely achieve 2,600 fps no problem. To me it's less about the gr charge than the velocity that is reasonable. 2,620 IMO/E is reasonable.
Obviously auto-loaders are a different matter...
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Side side note here, but I see that my Horn manual lists 41.4 as a max with R15 and a 180 for a speed of 2400 with a 22" tube. And then the Speer manual has a 22" tube and allows 45 as a max for a max speed of 2613.
Question being, which of the two speeds do we use as a max? IMO 213 fps is a ton load of diff tween what a couple manuals.
Just a thunk
Dober Saw the same thing, only thing I could think of is the Speer bullet is softer, if there is such a thing with jacketed bullets??  My practice is usually go with the manual that uses the same bullet brand as Im using.
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Sierra has 41.3grs RE15 with a velocity of 2500 with a 26" tube.
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Saw the same thing, only thing I could think of is the Speer bullet is softer, if there is such a thing with jacketed bullets?? My practice is usually go with the manual that uses the same bullet brand as Im using. Pressure=velocity, velocity=pressure. If one type of 180 can go 2,600 safely in a 22" bbl., so can any other type of 180... but the load may have to be adjusted up or down accordingly.
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But Mac, I think that would be the pressure for the barrel/chamber tested in and not others though...right?
Also, what do you recon that the manuals that don't give pressure data use to form their idea as to what top end should be? Guessing I'm thinking they have a way to measure pressure but choose not to list it. Maybe..?
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But Mac, I think that would be the pressure for the barrel/chamber tested in and not others though...right? Absolutely... but again, pressure=velocity, velocity=pressure. If a manual gives 180/2,610 with a CUP reading, it's safe to assume your rifle of the same barrel length (or dropping/adding 25 fps per inch to extrapolate) can go right there too... however, depending on your chamber and barrel you may need MORE or LESS powder than the manual suggests. Guys get too hung up on the charge a manual lists and ignore velocities. If a "book" load in my rifle is giving significantly more velocity than the manual suggests (coupled with their pressure readings) I BACK OFF, even if it's a "book" load. At least I do that now-a-days... when I was younger I just ignorantly assumed "cool... I got a fast barrel" and rocked-on. There is no such thing as slow or fast barrels... there's just pressure that creates velocities and there is no free lunch. The variables that change pressure are numerous and beyond just the barrel or chamber.
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Also, what do you recon that the manuals that don't give pressure data use to form their idea as to what top end should be? Guessing I'm thinking they have a way to measure pressure but choose not to list it. Maybe..?
Dober
Mark, if they're publishing, they're pressure testing rest assured. I think it's too bad the manuals don't give that data. Hodgdon sure does though and I love them for it.
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Guessing that's my wonder one manual says 2400 and one says 2613 for speed so which one does one choose? I think it has to do with the individual barrel and chamber.
And I guess in the end I do believe in fast and slow barrels but that's just my experience sans pressure testing machine of course. But using the old redneck method of testing I do feel that fast/slow tubes do exist.
I remember David Miller telling me that he wouldn't be suprised to see 200 fps diff tween 10 different barrels all cut with the same reamer. That to me would suggest that the fast/slow barrel deal is real.
Dober
(speaking of which I'm a loading fool today...grin)
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I hear the thinking Mark and agree some barrel/chamber combos create higher pressure and some create lesser pressure. I guess we can call them "fast and slow" but it seems to me with a "slow barrel" we can juice it up to match what a manual with pressure data says, and with the "fast" there is no free lunch (pressure=velocity) and we may need to back off a book load if we're well over what pressure tested data says we should expect.
I think we're mostly saying the same thing, just in a different way...
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The rule of thumb I've been told by a ballistic lab technician is that every 10,000th of an inch in bore diameter raises or drops pressure by about 1000 psi. And 1000 psi in a typical modern rifle round means a change in velocity of about 25 fps in a 3000 fps load.
This means that a .30 caliber barrel that's a dead-nuts .3080" in bore diameter would be 200 fps faster than a barrel of .3088" bore diameter--and I have seen some .309" bores on factory rifles. The same technician told me he's seen custom pressure barrels from the same company that varied several 10,000ths in the same caliber.
So yeah, there are slow and fast barrels--but there aren't any barrels that get "extra" velocity without extra pressure.
That doesn't take into account differences in throating, number and width of grooves, etc. Or, perhaps even more important, different bullets. They vary not only in diameter from brand to brand, but bearing surface, inner hardness and friction of the jacket material.
Frankly, I'm often amazed at how closely data from different places agrees on occasion.
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BSA, it's not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing, it's a matter of individual rifles and bullets... plenty of manuals will give 45 gr's Varget or RL15 with a 180 in the 308 Win. I used to run 45gr varget with 180gr SST in my 7600, for 2625fps. Actually 46 gr was fine too, but accuracy was better at 45gr.
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Of all the powders I play with it seems RL powders are least consistant from lot to lot. The couple containers of re15 I tried seemed slower than data would suggest. All things considered here's what QL thinks you can get to at 62k pressure with a 180 in a 308 with 24" barrel. I understand the new MR2000 powder may take us further. Anyone who loads 308 knows there are some significant diff's in brand of case and capacity. Also alot of newer guns are showing up with freebore. So the usual disclamer....work up.... Cartridge : .308 Win.
Bullet : .308, 180, Hornady SP 3070
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch or 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch or 609.6 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 62000 psi, or 427 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
59 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 75%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
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Vihtavuori N550 109.9 49.1 3.18 2755 99.0 62000 9272 1.151 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 760 107.2 49.6 3.21 2753 97.0 62000 9360 1.144 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-17 104.0 47.7 3.09 2752 99.6 62000 8992 1.137 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot BigGame 105.6 47.7 3.09 2741 99.7 62000 8834 1.147 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 11 105.7 47.8 3.09 2740 99.7 62000 8823 1.147 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H414 104.2 48.5 3.15 2727 97.0 62000 9179 1.157 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4895 103.8 43.9 2.84 2720 100.0 62000 8169 1.140 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon BL-C2 97.1 46.4 3.00 2716 100.0 62000 8503 1.162 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 203B 103.1 45.1 2.92 2714 99.8 62000 8564 1.162 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 203 old 104.9 46.4 3.00 2713 100.0 62000 8487 1.169 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP11 ~approximation 102.6 44.9 2.91 2713 99.6 62000 8603 1.162 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-15 102.6 44.9 2.91 2713 99.6 62000 8603 1.162 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Raufoss RA11 102.6 44.9 2.91 2713 99.6 62000 8603 1.162 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 748 94.6 44.5 2.88 2708 100.0 62000 8122 1.156 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R903 107.2 46.4 3.01 2705 99.9 62000 8401 1.170 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H380 103.8 46.4 3.01 2698 98.8 62000 8679 1.166 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S355 107.0 45.8 2.97 2696 99.9 62000 8391 1.169 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 3031 102.6 42.0 2.72 2695 100.0 62000 7632 1.162 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4320 104.5 45.0 2.91 2694 99.7 62000 8276 1.150 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4064 110.0 45.0 2.91 2689 100.0 62000 7898 1.191 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 516 99.9 46.5 3.02 2688 98.7 62000 8567 1.160 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 9 99.8 45.1 2.92 2687 99.7 62000 8327 1.162 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2520 99.6 44.9 2.91 2685 100.0 62000 7890 1.175 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4350 110.0 47.9 3.10 2683 97.3 57039 9073 1.179 ! Near Maximum !
PB Clermont PCL 507 96.2 43.9 2.85 2679 100.0 62000 8071 1.164 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot TAC 93.6 43.8 2.84 2678 100.0 62000 8050 1.165 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S321 94.4 44.4 2.88 2678 100.0 62000 8107 1.170 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma URP 110.0 47.6 3.08 2675 98.4 55858 8949 1.196 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H4895 105.2 44.5 2.89 2675 100.0 62000 7835 1.156 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 110.0 47.6 3.08 2674 98.4 55801 8945 1.197 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 110.0 49.7 3.22 2672 96.7 55617 9208 1.195 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex-S0621 103.6 44.1 2.86 2672 100.0 62000 8000 1.174 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 204 110.0 49.7 3.22 2671 93.9 59374 9022 1.168 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S341 98.0 46.1 2.99 2671 99.7 62000 8116 1.163 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon VARGET 104.9 44.4 2.88 2669 99.4 62000 8243 1.160 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2208 104.5 44.4 2.88 2669 99.4 62000 8243 1.160 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N530 95.2 41.9 2.71 2667 100.0 62000 7910 1.166 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2495 102.3 42.3 2.74 2666 100.0 62000 7520 1.198 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex-S0651 110.0 47.1 3.05 2666 98.0 61578 8514 1.175 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N540 102.1 45.1 2.92 2665 100.0 62000 7874 1.169 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4064 105.7 43.7 2.83 2662 99.6 62000 8059 1.165 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H335 90.0 42.9 2.78 2661 100.0 62000 7673 1.167 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 202 99.7 42.9 2.78 2660 100.0 62000 7654 1.172 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 201 96.0 42.9 2.78 2659 100.0 62000 7927 1.180 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 10 89.6 41.9 2.71 2657 100.0 62000 7605 1.170 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan Sp 7 92.0 43.2 2.80 2657 100.0 62000 7734 1.183 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 508 89.5 41.9 2.72 2656 100.0 62000 7596 1.170 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R907 108.4 46.5 3.02 2655 96.1 62000 8510 1.171 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4007 SSC 105.0 46.6 3.02 2654 96.1 62000 8504 1.171 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R902 102.2 43.1 2.79 2650 100.0 62000 7825 1.181 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H322 95.3 40.5 2.62 2648 100.0 62000 7361 1.166 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2219 89.6 40.5 2.62 2648 100.0 62000 7361 1.166 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2460 93.1 43.7 2.83 2647 100.0 62000 7661 1.185 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex-S0701 110.0 47.6 3.08 2646 96.5 58589 8690 1.197 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N140 108.0 45.4 2.94 2645 100.0 62000 7793 1.168 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot X-Terminator 87.8 41.1 2.66 2642 100.0 62000 7403 1.173 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex-D0832 94.1 43.4 2.81 2639 100.0 62000 7201 1.170 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2230 91.5 42.9 2.78 2635 100.0 62000 7519 1.182 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R901 98.2 40.8 2.64 2634 100.0 62000 7454 1.192 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Nitrochemie A/S 0300 86.8 38.9 2.52 2634 100.0 62000 7065 1.175 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N135 108.9 43.2 2.80 2634 100.0 62000 7158 1.177 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S365 110.0 47.9 3.10 2629 99.8 49663 8792 1.246
ADI AR 2210 90.5 40.9 2.65 2623 100.0 62000 7451 1.173 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex-S0601 99.0 42.1 2.73 2620 99.7 62000 7656 1.171 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-12 95.1 42.4 2.75 2620 100.0 62000 7229 1.173 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex-D0731 90.9 42.4 2.75 2619 99.9 62000 7515 1.174 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex-D0733 90.8 42.3 2.74 2619 100.0 62000 7446 1.177 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon Benchmark 96.2 41.5 2.69 2616 100.0 62000 7421 1.174 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI BM2 88.6 41.3 2.67 2616 100.0 62000 7397 1.174 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2206 98.3 42.5 2.76 2610 99.9 62000 7549 1.172 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2200 87.9 39.0 2.53 2607 100.0 62000 7159 1.173 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N150 110.0 45.4 2.94 2606 100.0 57584 7797 1.205 ! Near Maximum !
ADI AR 2206H 97.4 42.6 2.76 2604 99.8 62000 7514 1.172 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-10x 92.7 38.3 2.48 2600 100.0 62000 6872 1.187 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2700 105.8 47.8 3.10 2600 95.7 62000 7976 1.180 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4350 110.0 46.1 2.99 2598 95.5 51967 8710 1.233 ! Near Maximum !
SF-033 fl 89.5 40.0 2.59 2597 100.0 62000 6729 1.193 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2015 94.3 39.9 2.59 2592 100.0 62000 6830 1.192 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S335 99.5 42.6 2.76 2591 100.0 62000 7042 1.188 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP1/NP ~approximation 84.1 38.0 2.47 2578 100.0 62000 6678 1.202 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 200 84.1 38.0 2.47 2578 100.0 62000 6678 1.202 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Raufoss RA4 110.0 48.1 3.12 2577 92.2 52768 8693 1.230 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 110.0 48.1 3.12 2577 92.2 52768 8693 1.230 ! Near Maximum !
Vihtavuori N133 101.4 40.6 2.63 2569 100.0 62000 6628 1.181 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 1680 78.2 36.8 2.38 2567 100.0 62000 6631 1.179 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4198 89.2 36.6 2.37 2559 100.0 62000 6549 1.174 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4350 110.0 46.0 2.98 2555 97.1 47446 8658 1.296
IMR 4198 92.2 36.1 2.34 2553 100.0 62000 6343 1.176 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N130 95.5 39.0 2.53 2553 100.0 62000 6516 1.189 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2209 110.0 47.9 3.10 2550 91.3 50629 8718 1.248
Kazan Sunar 308W 91.0 39.0 2.52 2548 100.0 62000 6494 1.191 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder- 7 87.1 36.8 2.39 2546 100.0 62000 6420 1.194 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 5744 79.1 32.3 2.10 2544 100.0 62000 6429 1.178 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2207 87.5 35.8 2.32 2537 100.0 62000 6290 1.196 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-19 110.0 48.1 3.12 2536 91.3 48659 8757 1.271
Winchester Supreme 780 110.0 50.7 3.29 2529 91.5 51615 8457 1.245 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R904 110.0 47.4 3.07 2528 90.6 51958 8286 1.246 ! Near Maximum !
Norma MRP 110.0 50.2 3.25 2527 91.4 44168 9433 1.314
IMR 4831 110.0 46.1 2.99 2526 97.0 46732 8422 1.300
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 110.0 48.1 3.12 2510 90.8 47548 8616 1.285
Somchem S385 110.0 48.6 3.15 2495 92.4 46394 8471 1.307
Hodgdon H4227 83.6 33.5 2.17 2493 100.0 62000 5895 1.191 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N120 89.9 35.9 2.33 2488 100.0 62000 5862 1.204 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 110.0 45.0 2.91 2487 98.2 45429 7969 1.308
IMR 4227 83.2 33.3 2.16 2487 100.0 62000 5868 1.189 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 SSC 110.0 49.4 3.20 2485 86.7 46219 8816 1.298
Nitrochemie A/S 0200 75.7 33.1 2.15 2480 100.0 62000 5809 1.203 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4831 SC 110.0 48.6 3.15 2464 87.2 47657 8265 1.290
Vihtavuori N560 110.0 49.2 3.19 2460 85.4 42726 8944 1.341
ADI AR 2213 110.0 48.6 3.15 2459 86.3 45502 8620 1.309
Raufoss RA15 110.0 48.6 3.15 2451 88.5 41898 8833 1.352
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 110.0 48.6 3.15 2451 88.5 41898 8833 1.352
Alliant Reloder-22 110.0 48.6 3.15 2451 88.5 41898 8833 1.352
Lovex-S0531 84.4 33.1 2.14 2449 100.0 62000 5617 1.208 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate MAGPRO 110.0 51.1 3.31 2418 82.3 41311 8797 1.365
Somchem S265 82.0 32.9 2.13 2411 100.0 62000 5393 1.223 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2205 79.4 33.0 2.14 2393 100.0 62000 5360 1.211 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R905 110.0 47.7 3.09 2382 84.9 40749 8210 1.377
Winchester WXR 110.0 47.6 3.08 2374 86.5 38321 8489 1.410
Vihtavuori N110 79.4 29.4 1.91 2366 100.0 62000 5069 1.232 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4831 110.0 46.8 3.03 2353 84.6 41468 7803 1.373
Vihtavuori N160 110.0 46.1 2.99 2335 86.4 41583 7472 1.379
Vihtavuori N165 110.0 47.6 3.08 2333 88.4 39655 7687 1.401
Ramshot Magnum (Big Boy) 110.0 51.5 3.34 2330 82.2 39167 8458 1.405
SNPE Vectan SP 12 110.0 51.4 3.33 2323 82.2 38793 8420 1.411
IMR 7828 110.0 46.8 3.03 2320 82.6 37999 8074 1.421
PB Clermont PCL 517 110.0 51.4 3.33 2317 81.9 38593 8393 1.414
Alliant Reloder-25 110.0 47.9 3.10 2302 88.4 34860 8457 1.467
ADI AP 2214 110.0 49.9 3.24 2294 81.4 39517 7923 1.407
Accurate 3100 110.0 45.5 2.95 2225 88.6 31921 7550 1.533
Norma MRP 2 110.0 48.1 3.12 2189 78.8 30717 7916 1.559
ADI AP 100 77.0 23.3 1.51 2159 100.0 62000 4017 1.269 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H1000 110.0 47.6 3.08 2146 76.9 32967 7180 1.522
Vihtavuori N570 110.0 50.7 3.29 2121 67.7 30263 7649 1.579
Alliant HERCO 76.2 20.9 1.36 2093 100.0 62000 3794 1.305 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon Retumbo 110.0 48.4 3.13 2067 75.7 28103 7338 1.618
Lovex-D1001 110.0 51.8 3.35 2059 65.6 32393 6406 1.561
Vihtavuori N170 110.0 47.6 3.08 2037 69.6 28308 6546 1.642
Rottweil J706 78.0 20.4 1.32 2028 100.0 62000 3542 1.331 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori 24N41 110.0 51.2 3.32 2013 60.6 30537 6321 1.602
Accurate Nitro 100 76.7 17.5 1.13 1988 100.0 62000 3384 1.337 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant GREEN DOT 76.5 18.7 1.21 1974 100.0 62000 3298 1.343 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2218 110.0 51.2 3.32 1966 57.3 28557 6272 1.646
Alliant RED DOT 81.6 17.8 1.15 1963 100.0 62000 3270 1.336 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate Solo 1000 77.2 18.7 1.21 1960 100.0 62000 3230 1.345 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AS 30 80.8 18.3 1.18 1939 100.0 62000 3156 1.347 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H870 110.0 49.7 3.22 1928 63.3 24353 6573 1.744
Norma R1 85.3 18.9 1.22 1920 100.0 62000 3088 1.353 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil P805 87.1 18.8 1.22 1920 100.0 62000 3085 1.354 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon Clays 84.5 17.7 1.15 1912 100.0 62000 3051 1.347 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon 50BMG 110.0 48.8 3.17 1863 53.1 24699 5615 1.751
Hodgdon US 869 110.0 51.2 3.32 1849 55.5 24351 5648 1.766
SNPE Vectan SP 13 110.0 49.2 3.19 1804 58.9 21776 5608 1.844
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 110.0 49.2 3.19 1751 55.3 20711 5274 1.889
Vihtavuori 20N29 110.0 51.8 3.35 1719 51.4 20542 5158 1.901
Accurate 8700 110.0 49.3 3.19 1715 52.7 20661 4902 1.903
NC A3502 ,test only 110.0 47.1 3.05 1652 38.3 21322 3745 1.903
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 110.0 47.1 3.05 1628 40.6 19599 3921 1.961
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 110.0 47.1 3.05 1181 18.8 11744 1814 2.611
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