Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Express Rifles and Big Bores Only Hornady should make more 416 ruger cartridges

I'd like to see Hornady make some 300 grain and 350 grain cartridges for the 416... would make them more flatter shooting. THey could get the 300 grain up to 2700fps at the muzzle and with high b.c. bullet this could almost equal .375ruger. I'd be the first one to buy a box and use it for deer or other situations where I don't need a 400 grain bullet and power.

1. it would beat it by a large margin in terms of ft lbs energy but the 300 gr 375 would have better SD and, theoretically, with less resistance due to smaller diameter would penetrate better.

2. thought you were a 458 man now champ?

Yeah those 300 grain .416's are really well known for having a high B.C.

Better yet, get a reloader and roll your own. I have loads from Ty at Barnes (developed by Ken Kempa) for the 300 and 350 TSX (as well as 400s) in the Ruger 416.

sectional density doesn't matter when your hunting less dangerous game with it.. like elk or deer

I like both cartridges.

Yeah its not like sectional density has any effect on penetration


(sarcasm)

[/quote] What if the elk are wearing chain mail for protection from the bears; won't you need the extra penetration?

and the fact you've never shot either is irrelevant, eh fridge?

you idiot, why do you need penetration on plains game or elk... you don't need 60" of penetration on a deer, or an elk, or caribou or european game like red deer and plains game in africa

Dear little Polska,

have you ever shot and killed an elk/deer/ antelope?

Inquiring minds want to know....

Sincerely,

Mr. Jake

You still need your bullet to penetrate. Depending upon the angle, there can be times when you want 60" of penetration on a bull elk. Heck, I've shot through 30+" of antelope, and my bullet kept on chugging along. I was pretty happy with that....

A bullet that DOESN'T give adequate penetration will only wound an animal, allowing it die a slow, miserable death.

Spoken like a moron who has never hunted elk or anything bigger than a deer for that matter.

Polska a wise man once said sometimes its better to be slient and thought a moron than to speak and remove all doubt.
I'd wager that goes double for you.

Hey Sausage. This might help you

60" of penetration on a bull elk? i'd rather have 30" with good expansion. No bull elks rib cage is 5 feet at its widest part... you guys are living in fantasy land

Thomas - your posts are so stupid I don't even pay attention to them.

To believe your post, fridge is to believe the only shot ever offered on an elk is broadside through the ribs. Yet, plenty of hunters hunt big elk in timber where shots can be fleeting and often otherwise than broadside.

But you wouldn't know that would you? Perhaps rather than a big rifle you could just use your self described 8" polish sausage death club.

But either way, stick to what you know which seems to be damned little.

hi Polska

The 416Ruger is designed to do the same job as the 416 Rygby or Remmy in shorter more compact package. Even if one can use it for elk or whitetail it's not really the domain it shines for. If you want to use it for elk in very open places it will fall short of other in term of trajectory even with a 300grs at 2700fps because of the poor BC that bullet have, 350 will be better. If you hunt in timber at very close range the 400grs will give you more "ooomph" and penetration for the quartering away through bushes shot you will sometimes have to try. So i think you'd better choose another rig for long range elk hunting or keep the 400grs bullets for close in work and train to get better used to the recoil of that cartridge. Note, as with the other 416 calibers, 200m are not too far for the Ruger if you know your trajectory and your scope reticule.
Dom

You know Sausage I find your post really funny in a way.
Perhaps its becuase I read them all in the voice of Yakov Smirnov.

Hi Thomas,

I don't consider myself a sausage even i took a bit too much weight this spring, but if it is whole pork sausage you speak about i can go that way....