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[/quote A troll, a troll, everyones a troll who doesn't agree with you. We all must agree with Crossy or you'll be a troll. [/quote]

[/quote]Give me four or five more examples (not including you). Why are you so fixated on Crossfire's posts? If you don't want to read them, put him on "ignore". Otherwise, your opinions about the situation down here carry about as much weight as Janet Napolitano's do, and are no more reflective of reality.[/quote]

No response? I thought so...

If this was an isolated incident, we would not be happy, but we would not be furious. This is simply the latest of a number of wildfires that have been started by illegals, some as early as the first week in March--a time frame when we never had fires until illegals started flooding our mountains. Many of these illegals have been apprehended and deported several to many times, often after committing felonies that would have kept them in prison for years if they were U.S. citizens.

Ranchers have had their grazing plans disrupted as their spring forage was consumed by these fires, forcing them to sell cattle on depressed markets or lease grazing that they can ill afford. Birding tours, vacationers and ecotourism will take a huge hit, not just this year, but for years to come.

Between this fire and the first Horseshoe Fire, taxpayers in the U.S. are going to be out $30-$40 million. The Chiricahuas will take years to recover and the loss to the local economy will most likely exceed the management and suppression costs. The only economic benefit will be to the Mexican cartels and it will be miniscule compared to what it costs us and our children and grandchildren.

This ain't a B&E or a car theft in Buttf*ck, Tennessee, this is an invasion of organized crime.

Wrong,...YOU HUNTER1960 are OBVIOUSLY a "Troll",.....as previously noted,.....creepily dogging my tracks, snuffling, snorting, drooling and rubbing yourself with sick glee,....stopping to roll in the spots where I've PISSED.

Look at your own post log, you sick [bleep].


You're getting all the "Respect" you've earned,......a meager and small measure.

GTC

"Johny Citizen",.......

that's who YOU are folks,....when you're dealing with this sorta' azzwhole.

"it doesn't matter who started it"

....any more than who killed Rob Krentz, or Brian Terry ?

SICK, and badly twisted logic in play here,.....hair standing up on the back of your neck CRAZY sick.

GTC

You'ld better get the Palominas Miniature Border Patrol on the case of Krentz & Terry. You claim that the Fed's can't solve it, they need you Junior Bill Jordan. You better hurry your burning daylight.

on the scene = firefighters reported several foot prints at origin of fire - these tracks were the same ones BP had been chasing the night before -
it aint rocket science -

crime scene showed illegals set the horseshoe 2 fire !

I'm not stating that this fire wasn't started by illegals. But the way some act, is if the illegals go away, so does the risk of fires. US Citizens are as capable as illegals at causing fires. But whatever, as everyone states that if you don't live there, it's not your problem, wrong. If all the illegals would enter the US and only stay in four states, CA, AZ, NM, TX, all would be good, but they don't.

This issue of illegal entry has been going on before Crossy was born. It isn't going to be completely erased, within a couple of years. It's interesting that many state here that the largest employer of illegals is the construction industry. The majority of the construction Co. owners are Repubs. yet the Repubs. are pushing the laws, that aren't mandatory to be enforced. It looks good on paper to keep folks happy. The Dems still get the votes and the Repubs. still get the cheap labor, and everyone is happy.

e.g. "hair standing up on the back of your neck CRAZY sick."

....see what I mean ?

Fires don't start by themselves - an ignition source is required; therefore, if the people who set the fires weren't present, those fires wouldn't have started. If those illegals weren't in the U.S., those fires wouldn't have started. Just like the Houston police officer killed a couple weeks ago would still be alive if the illegal alien who killed him hadn't been in the U.S. I don't know where you get the logic you are operating with on this topic, but it is completely flawed.

Do you love...not being welcomed?

just curious...

"Why can't you accept the fact that if the illegals weren't here, the fires would start anyway,...."

Jesus H. Christ on a crutch,....we're in the "You must ACCEPT my Dog Chit opinion" about,........WTF today's crazy concept is.

How the HELL can you even begin to think of calling this "logic".

This is not about "Flawed logic"....it's about a damaged BRAIN.

GTC

Look at natl. crime stats. the illegals aren't the biggest violators of the laws, it's the folks who should of been deported in 1865 and white folks. They still occupy the majority of jail & prison space in this country. This issue isn't going to be over quickly. Do you truly believe that this country can & will be able, to be 100% illegal alien free?

[quote=crossfireoops]"Why can't you accept the fact that if the illegals weren't here, the fires would start anyway,...."

Jesus H. Christ on a crutch,....we're in the "You must ACCEPT my Dog Chit opinion" about,........WTF today's crazy concept is.

How the HELL can you even begin to think of calling this "logic".

This is not about "Flawed logic"....it's about a damaged BRAIN.


The damn fire was started by an illegal. Would it be any different, if it was started by a US citizen, who threw his cigarette into the brush?? Would you be on here posting about it as much? It's all about the whining the illegals, have done this, the illegals have done that. How old are you?? How many years did you stand by and not say or do a darn thing? How many years have you lived in AZ.? Now it's all terrible.

Your own hero RR, who you quaoted as being such a great Pres. who was a border state former Gov. did absolutley nothing for eight years on border issues. The only border he cared about was the one between East & West Germany.

nah, i was just pointing out that if someone comments contrarily to your post, you respond with 'what business is it of yours?' or similar, yet when it's appropriate for you to respond it's 'an open website'. your original post (from 3/21/11, and yes, sometimes i have too much free time!):



yes, i added the bold, maybe it'll help your memory.... i find you occasionally have something to offer, constructively, but mostly it's the same negative attack rhetoric that becomes rather annoying. entertaining jousts at time, but still annoying.

I really don't care, but i know it's so very important to you, to be loved and follow the crowd, kinda like a flippen sheep.

"Follow the crowd"???

You obviously don't pay attention to any of my posts...or you are that dumb...your pick...

The question isn't about crime statistics - probabilities don't matter when one is talking about one particular incident.

The question is whether a particular fire would have been started if the person who set it wasn't there, and the answer is definitively NO, that particular fire wouldn't have been started if the person who started it hadn't been there.

"Your own hero RR, who you quaoted as being such a great Pres. who was a border state former Gov. did absolutley nothing for eight years on border issues. The only border he cared about was the one between East & West Germany."

Hey,....you, YEAH you Hunter1960,.....ain't it about time that you mention "your beloved Arizona",.....or further denigrate the interest that a mere "Citizen" takes in his area, and community.

You can shove your opinion of RR up your HOMO azz, Jack. (and don't forget the Gasoline and Tabasco marinade prior)

No idea WTF YOU are, and I would seriously suggest that NONE of us will EVER know, ....but you make it pretty goddam clear that you are on ANYBODY'S side but that of the ordinary, everyday American Patriot.

I've said you are an SPLC plant, agent provacateur from the get go, ....and would suggest that the show you've put on today has done zilch to disabuse that notion.

That , or you need to get some professional help, and get your bloody head together.

READ what your posting , man.

[bleep]' READ it !

It was not started by a family in a campground, so if the illegals had not been out there the fire would not have started dumbass. You are missing the whole point,the fire is just ANOTHER problem the illegals have created.