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Seems many said the same about RR but he won. Which of her positions do you not agree with??? Being well to the right of center myself I agree with most of what I have heard her say. Problem is, someone that far to the right can�t win the center and without the center Obama gets reelected. I would rather have a candidate who can beat Obama than one I agree with on everything. we tried the center with mc lame and before that with bob cold
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
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The Left will vote for BHO the Right will not. This is as obvious as saying the sun will rise tomorrow.
Problem is there are not enough in either camp to elect a President. Hence each camp must capture votes from the Middle. The Middle is an amorphous mass of the politically naive who won't pay much attention to either candidate until maybe two weeks before the election. This mass will vote for whoever promises it more and scares it less.
BHO, with the willing help from the MSM, will appear to move to the center and the other candidate will do the same. If the other candidate is some rightwingnut he or she will have a difficult time fighting the MSM headwinds and defeating a popular sitting President.
Therefore, to win, it is incumbent upon the GOP to send up someone who can capture a large percentage of the Middle in spite of opposition from the MSM and the general lassitude of the politically unsophisticated middle. This will not be an easy task and may even prove impossible.
I have not yet endorsed any candidate.
That is because you don't understand that the Tea Party is made up of Independents from the middle. barkoff is right, the middle is more conservative than the republican party at this time.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time by the blood of patriots and tyrants.
If being stupid allows me to believe in Him, I'd wish to be a retard. Eisenhower and G Washington should be good company.
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On the other hand�it is true that that so-called moderate middle that swings elections is largely which side is enthused more than the other side and show up to vote�
A recent report in Salon explained Rutgers political scientist David Redlawsk estimates that 5 million people voted for Barack Obama in 2008 and then voted for a Republican in 2010. Boy, 5 million people! That is not even 6 percent of the entire voting electorate! (Or maybe even less, because the number of people who claim they voted for Obama is probably high.)[...]
Truly independent voters are still mythical creatures. They exist in the imaginations of commentators who�ve spent most of their adult lives in Washington, D.C. Otherwise, the electorate is largely made up of Democratic voters and Republican voters. In this last election, more Republican voters showed up than Democratic voters. In 2008, the opposite was true.
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“In Trump We Trust.” Right????
SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."
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She's "big government" to the core. And which of the oft mentioned names is NOT ? Sarah Palin! Palin '12!!! (Yes I believe she will run, I've been hoping she'll announce today!)
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Right on eyeball, and dont forget his rump rangin' bud, holder
Gunner Or the genius one heartbeat from the presidency, Joe "Piehole" Biden.
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We need another Know-Nothing with dementia in the White House!!!!
THAT explains why you're voting for 0bama! Makes perfect sense! Me, I'll be voting for someone that has a chance to pull America back from the brink of total disaster!
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we tried the center with mc lame and before that with bob cold Neither lost because they were near the center politically, they lost because they were poor candidates from the get go. Dole was a throw-away against Clinton for his second term; back when spending was under control and the economy was doing great. Dole was 73, the oldest first-time presidential nominee even beating Ronald Reagan. McCain ran on the Iraq war and was poorly prepared to run on the economy and even said he didn�t know much about it. If Republicans run some rightwingnut this time they�ll not only lose the center they�ll lose moderate Republicans and give Obama a landslide victory that he�ll falsely claim is a mandate for more socialist laws.
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Michelle's one of the good guys, along with Demint, West, Rubio etc and they all have one thing in common. They are all Tea Party endorsed leaders. It's obvious that the media has taken the anti-Palin playbook and simple changed the target. I hope that she can polish her debate performance and get past this "rap" that they have stuck to her. As some of you know, I have never been super impressed with her impromptu speaking but I don't see that as something her cannot improve significantly on with a some more interviews and debates. I just hope it happens before this media created creature takes on a life of it's own. And I'll say this again- Chris Wallace can BLOW ME.
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Michelle's one of the good guys, along with Demint, West, Rubio etc and they all have one thing in common. They are all Tea Party endorsed leaders. It's obvious that the media has taken the anti-Palin playbook and simple changed the target. I hope that she can polish her debate performance and get past this "rap" that they have stuck to her. As some of you know, I have never been super impressed with her impromptu speaking but I don't see that as something her cannot improve significantly on with a some more interviews and debates. I just hope it happens before this media created creature takes on a life of it's own. And I'll say this again- Chris Wallace can BLOW ME. Chris Matthews can too.....
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The next election will be won/lost on accomplishments/record. Talking points won't be enough. What are hers?
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The next election will be won/lost on accomplishments/record. Talking points won't be enough. What are hers? It should be won on character and whether a candidate has the right views and understanding of our current problems and what needs doing to fix them. Nothing else.
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I'll buy that, but I believe the voting public is going to want to know exactly what they are getting this go-round.
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The next election will be won/lost on accomplishments/record. Talking points won't be enough. What are hers? It should be won on character and whether a candidate has the right views and understanding of our current problems and what needs doing to fix them. Nothing else. For those who are actually educate themselves on the candidates, that works. Unfortunately, a huge segment of the population is voting blind and dumb. George
�Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�
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My question was serious. She sounds good, but what has she done?
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I'll buy that, but I believe the voting public is going to want to know exactly what they are getting this go-round. For most of them that would be a first!
" The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants" Thomas Jefferson.
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My question was serious. She sounds good, but what has she done? Many on here have complained about her being former IRS. She introduced HR 86 which is summarized as follows: End Tax Uncertainty Act of 2011 - Makes permanent: (1) the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001; (2) provisions of the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003 that reduce income tax rates on dividend and capital gains income; and (3) the repeal of the estate, gift, and generation-skipping transfer taxes. Amends the Internal Revenue Code to: (1) repeal the alternative minimum tax (AMT) on individual taxpayers; and (2) reduce to 25% the maximum income tax rate on corporations, including personal service corporations Don't think she has much use for taxes or the IRS. More answers to your question will follow.
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My question was serious. She sounds good, but what has she done? HR 87 to repeal the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act. Can anything from those two idiots be good?
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My question was serious. She sounds good, but what has she done? HR 1285 Military Healthcare Affordability Act. Military Health Care Affordability Act - Expresses the sense of Congress that: (1) so long as the United States sends men and women into battle, the United States will be faithful to care for them upon their return; (2) as the veteran answered the call of duty, so too, is the United States duty-bound to answer the call of the veteran; and (3) the Department of Defense (DOD) and the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) have the tools and ingenuity to provide continued excellent health care without increasing TRICARE payments from the veteran before fiscal year 2014. Extends through FY2013 (under current law, through FY2011) the prohibition on increases in certain health care costs and restrictions on health benefit adjustments for members of the Armed Forces, retirees, and their dependents, including charges and premiums under TRICARE (a DOD managed care program) and cost-sharing requirements under the DOD pharmacy benefits program.
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My question was serious. She sounds good, but what has she done? Co-Sponsor: HR 2 Repealing the Job Killing Health Care Act Obamacare
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My question was serious. She sounds good, but what has she done? Co-Sponsor HR 49 American Energy Independence and Price Reduction Act. Summary: American Energy Independence and Price Reduction Act - Directs the Secretary of the Interior to implement a competitive leasing program for the exploration, development, and production of the oil and gas resources on the Coastal Plain of Alaska. Amends the Alaska National Interest Lands Conservation Act of 1980 to repeal the prohibition against leasing or other development leading to production of oil and gas from the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR). Deems any oil and gas leasing programs and activities authorized by this Act to be in compliance with ANWR purposes. Authorizes the Secretary to designate up to 45,000 acres of the Coastal Plain as a Special Area, after consultation with the state of Alaska, the city of Kaktovik, and the North Slope Borough. Permits directional drilling in the Special Area. Prescribes procedures governing Coastal Plain lease sales, as well as terms and conditions, including: (1) environmental protection; (2) federal and state distribution of revenues; (3) rights-of-way; and (4) local government impact aid and community service assistance.
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