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I was flipping through Speer's #14 reloading manual last night and came across the .460 Smith. The cartridge obviously doesn't need any introduction and we all know it is impressive. I was looking at top loads that move a 300gr slug out at 1700fps in an 8" or 8.5" barrel.

About then I remembered that Ruger has a listing for a #1S in the .460 Smith. If that round will push 300gr bullets at 1700 with 8" of barrel, what will this thing do with 22"? I know it is loaded to the gills so to speak when it comes to pressure but I can't help but imagine that this thing would easily compare to a .45-70 if chambered in a #1.

Does anyone have any experience with this combo? I would love to hear some feedback.

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Hold out for the 475 Turnbull


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Awhile back someone was talking about getting 2600 fps with a 200 gr. bullet out of a 24" barrel IIRC.Don't know if it is true, but I'd say it is possible at the pressure level of the .460.


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Why not the 500 Smith? Go to the top of the heap.


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I'm semi-interested in the .475 LInebaugh, only because I have a SRH .480. At one time I was guessing the #1 should be able to run 370's at 1800-1900 fps or so


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Originally Posted by tex_n_cal
I'm semi-interested in the .475 LInebaugh, only because I have a SRH .480. At one time I was guessing the #1 should be able to run 370's at 1800-1900 fps or so


i had an itch to try that one meself....it is supposed to arrive here Friday.

will post some results after i give it a spin.

still halfway thinking i need a .460 too though. wink



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Originally Posted by Rolly
Why not the 500 Smith? Go to the top of the heap.


Don't like the liability for the barns I might knock down.


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Originally Posted by Rolly
Why not the 500 Smith? Go to the top of the heap.


Currently, Ruger doesn't chamber the .500 Smith in the #1 line...or any line for that matter. Besides, if I was going to the top of the heap, I would just get a .458 Lott.

The particular chambering just caught my attention for some reason. Something about how it would duplicate the .45-70 in every way with a smaller case just appealed to me. I know it is only possible because of the 65kpsi SAAMI specs but it just caught me as an impressive round.

For some reason, I keep thinking that my next #1 needs to be a cast bullet rifle so I keep gravitating to the .45-70. I know the .460 and .475 would work equally well though so they are on my radar too.

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I have a no.1 with a douglass 24" barrel. The higest velocity I have achevied with 300gr SST Hornady bullets is 2400 fps. Groups were about 2.5" That was using Lil gun. I setteled on Alliant 2400 powder for a velocity of 2180 fps but i get moa out of it.
I have gotten 1" groups from Barnes 290 gr TEZ bullets and Lil gun at 2290 fps.
With factory Hornady 200 gr ammo, I get right at 2800 fps.The problem with the FTX ammo is, it is only rated at 2300 fps.
I have yet to kill anything with it yet, but it kills steel very well!
I have trimmed some brass to the (Indiana legal limit} of 1.62" with lil gun and 300 SST's and get 2290 with them. This is the load I will use this fall. It shoots moa also.

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Welcome to the fire Bogusmcall and thank you for your contribution.


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Originally Posted by DMc
Welcome to the fire Bogusmcall and thank you for your contribution.

Agreed. Welcome and thanks for some great information.


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I have a no.1 with a douglass 24" barrel. The higest velocity I have achevied with 300gr SST Hornady bullets is 2400 fps. Groups were about 2.5" That was using Lil gun. I setteled on Alliant 2400 powder for a velocity of 2180 fps but i get moa out of it.
I have gotten 1" groups from Barnes 290 gr TEZ bullets and Lil gun at 2290 fps.
With factory Hornady 200 gr ammo, I get right at 2800 fps.The problem with the FTX ammo is, it is only rated at 2300 fps.
I have yet to kill anything with it yet, but it kills steel very well!
I have trimmed some brass to the (Indiana legal limit} of 1.62" with lil gun and 300 SST's and get 2290 with them. This is the load I will use this fall. It shoots moa also.

Any chance you may have played with some heavy cast bullets--heavier than 300grs?


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No, 300 gr is as heavy as i have tried. Sometime in the furture I plan on trying some 350-400 gr hard cast though.

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Thanks. Please keep us updated if you ever get to playing with the cast stuff. I am sure more than one of us would be interested in your results.


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