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Yeah, the longer I've had my copy, the luckier I feel!
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Absolutely amazing how many are against shooting a moose with a 100 Gr bullet out of a 243 win going 2850 fps but would think nothin of shooting one with a 40 lb bow and 100gr broad head going 300 fps. you can get 300fps with a 40lb Bow?? holy cow. lol 39 inch draw or something lol. I'm not a bow hunter, just guessing for illustration purposes. and yes I do have a 39" draw!! You must have a 90" arm span You need to get your mind in the right place.
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OK. so say a moose is 1K pounds. and the bullet is a .243 of the 100 grain variety (0.01428 pounds) thats a ratio of bullet weight to animal weight .00001428/1 a 30-06 at 180 grains is .0000257/1. Really? REALLY? The moose is gonna tell the difference? Hit 'em proper and take him home.
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I hear ya......my thoughts as well. But if he shoots the 30.06, and it scares the crap outta him, need a backup plan. He does shoot the 6.5x55 well, so that is another better otion as well. Lord knows the .303 will do it, has done it. I have one of those as an option as well. The Swede with 140 Barnes TSX! Quit trying to state the obvious my friend. Better option.
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Hey guys, thanks for the lively discussion. My thoughts are not whether the .243 will kill a moose. I know it will, have friends that have shot quite a few with it. Is it MY first choice. Nope. I've always believed you should shoot the biggest gun you can shoot WELL. Just want a back up plan, and so far, am enjoying the discussion. In all likelihood, we will go with the 6.5x55 and accubonds (already have them)
Thanks for your input, feel free to carry on!
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"Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life." (Prov 4:23) Brother Keith
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OK. so say a moose is 1K pounds. and the bullet is a .243 of the 100 grain variety (0.01428 pounds) thats a ratio of bullet weight to animal weight .00001428/1 a 30-06 at 180 grains is .0000257/1. Really? REALLY? The moose is gonna tell the difference? Hit 'em proper and take him home. Yes it will. All mathematical calcualations prove in regard to shooting is "that bumblebees can't fly". Math doesn't tell you what will happen. Shooting those two loads into game repeatedly will tell you though.
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Skatch,
Think you're doing right by your boy with the 6.5. Have fun and build memories.
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Heck, I'd shoot 'em all day long with a .243 if it was legal but you do know it's illegal to shoot 'em with a rifle?
What? Moose? Oh, I thought you said goose!!! Thinking about it, with a well-placed, good bullet, I don't think it would be any problem. Might not be much of a blood trail, but I think it would do the trick. __________ NRA Life,Endowment,Patron or Benefactor since '72.
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If your Son can't shoot the 30-06 or the 6.5X55 , he's not ready to hunt Moose yet ! IMHO Go ya one better, beins you're a full growed bonafide he man, if you can't shoot a 458 lott loaded full house with 500 gr bullets, with a stock that a full 2 inches to long and a checkered steel buttplate you're a puss... I have been guiding Moose Hunters for 17 Years and learned early on that enough Gun is important . I learned this lesson from 2 guys with .243s . I will not guide anyone that doesn't carry at least a .270 Win. I have no idea what your experience is and don't really care . If you were to call me a Puss to my Face , I bet I could change your mind without saying a word . There are Ethical Hunters and there are guys like you .Just because you disagree with someones opinion , there's no need for a personal attack ! Internet Commandos make me sick !
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[qu I have been guiding Moose Hunters for 17 Years and learned early on that enough Gun is important . I learned this lesson from 2 guys with .243s . I will not guide anyone that doesn't carry at least a .270 Win. I have no idea what your experience is and don't really care . If you were to call me a Puss to my Face , I bet I could change your mind without saying a word . There are Ethical Hunters and there are guys like you .Just because you disagree with someones opinion , there's no need for a personal attack ! Internet Commandos make me sick ! So why stop with a piddle ass little 270, why not go with a 416 remington mag? Just exactly when does enough become enough? As for ethics there puss I'm afraid you wouldn't know what an ethic was if it was stuck in your femine hygiene product....
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Ah, now we're getting to it. Name-calling on the Campfire, including the implication that the other guy totally lacks hunting ethics, or is some sort of girly-man. Hard to beat both for originality.
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This old bullspit put for by these firearms xspurts, just baffle me. I mean really,, if cartridge x isn't big enough then why not go with something with some serious horsepower. They always quit with the dink as 30 or 33 bores, why not get real and go for calibers that starts with a 4? Sheezus.
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Brings to mind Phil's comment on those without faith in the 30-06 as a brown bear cartridge.
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Ah, now we're getting to it. Name-calling on the Campfire, including the implication that the other guy totally lacks hunting ethics, or is some sort of girly-man. Hard to beat both for originality. I agree with you MuleDeer...pitiful how ONE person asks a question wanting/needing advice on something and it gets ,somehow, to this bullschitt. Still donno why we can't all stay on the topic...
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And the topic of this thread has been pretty well beaten to, well, death.
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Ah, now we're getting to it. Name-calling on the Campfire, including the implication that the other guy totally lacks hunting ethics, or is some sort of girly-man. Hard to beat both for originality. I agree with you MuleDeer...pitiful how ONE person asks a question wanting/needing advice on something and it gets ,somehow, to this bullschitt. Still donno why we can't all stay on the topic... ??? And your answer to which bullet to use in his sons 243 was hidden in code in that wonderfully thought out piece of suckup????
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And the topic of this thread has been pretty well beaten to, well, death. again, agreed.
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