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Anybody have experience with the Marmot down sleeping bags with the waterproof membrane? Just wondering if the waterproof and breathability of this bag are any good.
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I've used Membrain though not on a sleeping bag. Waterproof yes, breathability numbers are almost identical to Gore-tex--which I find quite poor. I also don't like membranes of any kind on sleeping bags due to condensation issues in the insulation. I'd suggest a water resistant bag cover if you need more protection. Hope this helps.
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Yep, that was kind of what I was thinking. I was thinking that if it was waterproof, it would have a hard time letting out condensation from inside the bag as well. Thanks for the info.
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I have a Marmot Helium Membrane bag. Has worked great so far. I don't think I'd go down woithout it--too risky. A bivy sack adds way too much weight for a backpacking bag IMO. A bag needs to be aired daily whenever practical anyway.
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I've used Membrain though not on a sleeping bag. Waterproof yes, breathability numbers are almost identical to Gore-tex--which I find quite poor. I also don't like membranes of any kind on sleeping bags due to condensation issues in the insulation. I'd suggest a water resistant bag cover if you need more protection. Hope this helps. +1 I have used Membrain bags, Conduit, Gore-Tex, Dryloft etc. They all have good weather protection but suffer baddly from a lack of breathability. Like Snowy said, a bag cover is a better answer. I have and like the Ti-Goat Omni-zip bivt, it's 7 oz. I have also had good luck with Mont-Bell's bag cover. Moisture from the inside is usuallly a lot more of a problem with a down bag than moisture from the outside. DWR's are quite effective unless you plan on sleeping in the rain with no shelter
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Thanks for the insights, Ed T. I just picked up a Marmot Helium long in NON-menbrane and I was thinking on an 'overbag' option. I have two goat permits in my pocket and wanted uber-light, warm, but want a dry sleep... Is that 7 oz. Ti-goat a long?
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Frank,
It will fit a long bag no problem.
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Aren't the seams on these not taped or otherwise made waterproof? I looked at the bad a few years back and I'm pretty sure that was one of the reasons I decided to stay away from it. The main issue was the condensation concern that's been pointed out.
I had a friend looking to get one of these recently thinking it was fully waterproof like a bivy. I'm pretty sure that isn't the case.
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Aren't the seams on these not taped or otherwise made waterproof? I looked at the bad a few years back and I'm pretty sure that was one of the reasons I decided to stay away from it. The main issue was the condensation concern that's been pointed out.
I had a friend looking to get one of these recently thinking it was fully waterproof like a bivy. I'm pretty sure that isn't the case. I don't think any are taped. Big Agnes had a series a while ago where the shell was bonded. I knew a guy in ID that spent several dry nights in the rai in one with no other shelter other than his rain coat ove his head. I don't know if they still make these or not.
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