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I mean contributions for employees, as well.
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3) Revenues need to be raised and dedicated to paying down the debt (retiring or paying off Treasury notes).
Didn't the Feds try that already with Social Security? They failed then, why would we believe they could do it this time???
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Apparently, they are about 2-3 votes short in the House. So, it's time to pull out the threats and bribes... no worry, they get that turd passed yet. I doubt it would pass the Senate and get signed into law. While I can see some Tea Party types worrying about re-election, I think the better game plan is to pass a bill out of the House so the blame lies elsewhere for failing to pass/sign anything.
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The right thing to do is always the right thing to do.
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If it doesn't extend the debt limit to beyond 2012, I expect Obama to veto it. We don't need to deal with this every day of our lives. And, if this becomes law, the Repubs will pull the same sh*t next time around. We need to break the back of the Tea Tards NOW! HEH HEH HEH,......what's this "We" chit? Do I detect a little FEAR ? It is WE who will "Break the back" of your lib. soc aspirations, plans, and agendas. It's coming, ....nothing you do or say will change that. GTC
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The right thing to do is always the right thing to do. Sounds good in theory, but not when a few hundred people have to address in a single piece of legislation what 300 million people are thinking, and at least three fourths of the 300 million can't even figure out what they are thinking. WSJ is going nuts right now. On a personal level, I wouldn't mind interest rates going up from their artificial low right now.
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The right thing to do is always the right thing to do. Sounds good in theory, but not when a few hundred people have to address in a single piece of legislation what 300 million people are thinking, and at least three fourths of the 300 million can't even figure out what they are thinking. WSJ is going nuts right now. On a personal level, I wouldn't mind interest rates going up from their artificial low right now. My answer is the same: The right thing to do is always the right thing to do.
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I'll say one more thing about this stuff. When the Democrats are making the Tea Party the villains, and the establishment Republicans are fighting with the Tea Party, that tells me the Tea Party is doing the right thing.
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We'll see. I think Obama lured the Repubs into the trap. He compromised last time around, and this time gave up his very reasonable call for increasing revenue by specific means. Since the Tea Tards have absolutely refused any kind of compromise, their position is now untenable. I expect Obama to strike back hard, as public opinion is on his side. The Tea Party has now been exposed as being selfish and petulant. The Repubs are divided against themselves, without a coherent strategy. I expect the head taking to begin soon.
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House Ends Day Without Debt Vote. House Republicans announce late Thursday there will be no vote on Speaker Boehner's bill until at least Friday, casting doubt on whether he has enough support within the GOP to pass it.
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It's an irrelevant circus act, anyway. DOA in the Senate. Now, can we get on to the business of governing this land of ours?
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Now, can we get on to the business of governing this land of ours? That will takes lots of meat hooks, as there's lots of liberals.
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EXACTLY! I mean how hard is it to COMPREHEND that one part of one part of the government cannot dictate to the two parts that don't??? I mean this is like a GEICO commercial. On the other hand the two cannot overrule the third. So in essence the House has as much power as the other two.
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Never lose sight of the strategic situation. Pass this and you back Obama up against a wall. Kill ,arguing for a better bill that will never happen and the blame will go solely on the GOP.
You will then inch closer to giving the reins completely back to the Dem's in 2012.
I think Steve's analysis is the correct one given the circumstances. Well, there lies our difference of opinion. I think the Tea Party was sent to DC to do exactly what they are doing. I think giving in to one of these plans, in light of that, is EXACTLY what is needed to re-elect the Dems. I believe the exact opposite of you guys then. I think this "strategic" stuff you advocate is precisely what the conservatives are tired of. I agree to disagree and await our fate. +10
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Now, can we get on to the business of governing this land of ours? That will takes lots of meat hooks, as there's lots of liberals. Isn't Wasilla eskimo for dumbazz.
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Now, can we get on to the business of governing this land of ours? That will takes lots of meat hooks, as there's lots of liberals. Isn't Wasilla eskimo for dumbazz. No, rkamp is.
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Now, can we get on to the business of governing this land of ours? That will takes lots of meat hooks, as there's lots of liberals. Isn't Wasilla eskimo for dumbazz. No, rkamp is. rkamp is an "acronym", I will give you a bit of time to look that up.
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Now, can we get on to the business of governing this land of ours? That will takes lots of meat hooks, as there's lots of liberals. Isn't Wasilla eskimo for dumbazz. Austin is where all those too stoned to make it on to San Francisco ended up.
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Now, can we get on to the business of governing this land of ours? That will takes lots of meat hooks, as there's lots of liberals. Isn't Wasilla eskimo for dumbazz. Austin is where all those too stoned to make it on to San Francisco ended up. Born and raised in the bay-area. The wacky-tabacky suits me just fine here.
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