Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Long Range Hunting How much accuracy is lost usning Savage/Rem nuts vs screw on barrels?

I don't know nuthin' about no injection.

The whole deal with Rem 700 actions is that they are cheap to make 'cause they are machined from round bar stock. I guess that was noteworthy at the time they came out. Also makes bedding them very straightforward.

I have had a couple Springfield M1a's with cast, not forged, receivers. Great rifles. Rugers are cast. I don't know who else is casting.

I can't see what is difficult about putting a standard Rem barrel on using a headspace gauge except getting the Unertl scope blocks level.

Umm, yes you can.

People have been putting takeoff 700 barrels on different 700 actions for nearly 50 years.

I've done it several times myself and the headspace was always within spec.

Not even my Savages have nuts anymore.

Why would anyone want to swap barrels ? The objective is to have the most complete guns, scopes, mounts, stocks as possible.
The best way to do that is to keep buying complete outfits.

Buy, Buy, Buy, help the recovery!

Unertlca,

Why? In case the first barrel isn't accurate and because money you put into a semi or custom firearm will never be recovered. It is also hard to help the recovery when we are unemployed with little or no income.

why?
to have more than one caliber on a good glued in action and stock.

my savage has a shoulder and no nuts, because i think i can change out a barrel on a shouldered barrel lots faster than with a savage nut and i dont have to fiddle with a gauge.

both systems work and maybe [just maybe] you save a few bucks on the savage system. it does serve a lot of folks well and gives them choices and options.

You've been very lucky. Of the last 5 I have done 3 were out of spec. I hope someone doesn't take a bolt to the face from following your advice.

I can send you a nutted Savage barrel and garantee that it will headspace on your factory action. Can you garantee that your shouldered barrel will headspace on my factory action?

Show me where I tell anyone else to try fitting a takeoff barrel to any action without checking headspace.

Yes you can send someone a nutted Savage barrel but then they'd be stuck with that ugly nut.

Do as you please, I'll not slum a nut again.

I never said you did. I was just pointing out that someone could read what you said and think that they can slam a take off barrel on their action and feel that the chances are in their favor of it being within spec.

As with a couple of our other discussions you're stating your opinions/preferences as fact.

I can admit that there are advantages/sacrifices to either headspacing technique, but it still boils down to the owners preference as to which is "better".

If you are unemployed you should be getting a job even if that means moving, taking a pay cut and so on. Playing with barrel swaps is not for people on the dole.

As far an "inaccurate" factory barrel, there have been a lot of posts on here that have dealt with "inaccurate" barrels. Most are just fouled. I've yet to meet a factory barrel that will not shoot big game killing groups, out of the box, with factory ammo. Say 3 in 1.5" @100.
Some are far better like the F Class savages in 6.5x284 or any number of 204s, 223s and 22-250s.

If you like changing barrels, then do it, but don't blame it on an "inaccurate" factory barrel.

Remember: "he who dies with the most toys wins."

I shot a 1 1/4 inch 10 shot group at two hundred yards the other day. I was using a factory Savage 22inch heavy barreled 308 with a 15 ounce (out of the box) accutrigger. I still have the target and will post it if I can ever figure out how the hell to post photos on here now. It and a factory 700 in 223 are two of my most accurate rifles to date.

Easy way to make Savage nuts look good...just take a sharpie and write "tactical nut" on them.

Everyone knows that would make them both more attractive and make the rifle more accurate.

It would also make everyone prefer them!

The nut is a solution that allows a manufacturer to easily and affordably achieve perfect head spacing on every rifle during mass production. Nothing more. I do find it very handy for swapping barrels though. No need for a gunsmith, shipping the action, etc.

A non nutted barrel is even easier to swap around once it is set up for a particular action. The only time the nut helps is using a single barrel on multiple actions.

Exactly!

Or the nut helps the novis with a single action and multiple barrels.

I disagree. If all those barrels had shoulders and a pinned recoil lug, it would be much easier on them.

Its Savage all the way .Why use a remnut hey