|
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 335
Campfire Member
|
OP
Campfire Member
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 335 |
Has anyone tried this combo? Seems like the lighter recoiling 6.5 and the light weight of the NULA might go together well. Anyone have any experience? Thanks!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 32,252 Likes: 3
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 32,252 Likes: 3 |
Not in a NULA, but the 6.5-284 with a case length of 2.165" (55mm) is a little too long with most bullets over 130 grain in a short action and not long enough to take advantage of the magazine length in a long action. Or at least that is my take on it.
JEff
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,256 Likes: 35
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 60,256 Likes: 35 |
The NULA Model 20 has a magazine length of 3", which works pretty well with the 6.5/.284.
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 277
Campfire Member
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 277 |
I have 6.5x284 win Nula for about 5 years
There are fools and damn fools, which one are you?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 14,475
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 14,475 |
The NULA Model 20 has a magazine length of 3", which works pretty well with the 6.5/.284. Perfection comes to mind. That combo would do it all in NA.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,205
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,205 |
If it were me, I would consider the 6.5 Creedmoor instead. Hornady makes ammo for it.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,327
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,327 |
I have NULA 6.5-284 and it's a great rifle.
It's very accurate, easy to shoot and load for, and kills things quite well. It's also a helluva lot of fun.
You may want to call Melvin and discuss it with him. He'll give you a lot of helpful information. And he's a great guy to talk to.
Steve
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 4,278
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 4,278 |
Doc,
I had one for about three years in a 24" barrel NULA. Also have a lot of experience with the round in 1000 yd BR. It was a nice round in the NULA with about 2900 with 140's w/o pushing it too much. With 100 gr bullets 3200+ is not a problem. Yes the 3" magazine is helpful but at the time Melvins reamer was old school and would only allow about 2.8" COL. Took a couple of trips back to get him to throat it properly so that three inch magazine could be used. That said, 3" COL is really too short to get the most out of the round with 140 grain bullets. 3.3 or 3.4 is ideal and this is what most every competitive rifles use and thats where the 6.5X284 made it's reputation. If I was going to have him build one today I would have Dave Kiff make a reamer that would allow 3" COL with 130 gr bullets rather than use Mel's.
The round will toast the barrel in about 1200-1500 rounds. In my experience at least. I burned the barrel shooting prarie dogs. (fun it was worth it)
So it is a neat round in a NULA subject to the limitations mentioned above. BTW it fed and cycled perfectly.
Lefty C
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 14,475
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 14,475 |
That said, 3" COL is really too short to get the most out of the round with 140 grain bullets. My experience is different than yours. In a hunting rifle that 3" is just fine. I ran 140 Bergers out of 2.8 Rem with Wyatts at 2.90. 49.5 grains of RL17 gave me 3,040.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 28,277
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 28,277 |
Or.....or....nah I ain't a gonna say it Dober
"True respect starts with the way you treat others, and it is earned over a lifetime of demonstrating kindness, honor and dignity"....Tony Dungy
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,516
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,516 |
If it were me, I would consider the 6.5 Creedmoor instead. Hornady makes ammo for it. If you could fit a 6.5 Creedmoor (or less) in the shortest NULA action (the 20 Short), which is designed for the .223 Rem length of cartridges, then I might see chambering with a 6.5 Creedmoor (or less). Otherwise, I can see no good reason to go with something other than .260 Rem or 6.5x284 in a short action 6.5mm hunting rifle, particularly with the longer magazine in a NULA.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 7,263
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 7,263 |
A 6.5 would be on my short list if I were ordering one. A 6.5x55 would be another option considered for the better barrel life and only about 100fps slower.
With the 257 Better Bob and the plain Jane .284 as the other contenders for best in a NULA.
"When you disarm the people, you commence to offend them and show that you distrust them either through cowardice or lack of confidence, and both of these opinions generate hatred." Niccolo Machiavelli
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 335
Campfire Member
|
OP
Campfire Member
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 335 |
Thanks guys! Good info. Appreciate the feedback. Glenn
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 14,475
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 14,475 |
A 6.5 would be on my short list if I were ordering one. A 6.5x55 would be another option considered for the better barrel life and only about 100fps slower.
In a hunting rifle it wouldn't matter and he'll get another 200 fps.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 17,478 Likes: 4
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 17,478 Likes: 4 |
Would a 6.5 x 284 work on a rebarreled Montana?
24" fluted Lilja?
I'm thinking of going that route......
“Live free or die. Death is not the worst of evils.” - General John Stark.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,242 Likes: 11
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,242 Likes: 11 |
Would a 6.5 x 284 work on a rebarreled Montana?
24" fluted Lilja?
I'm thinking of going that route...... David, I would measure the mag length on your Montana. Mule Deer stated that his NULA 20 had a 3" box. My 6.5-284 is on a pre-64 M-70 with a 3.36" mag box, which leave a lot of room to work with. It would depend on your chamber throat and how long you were loading your rounds. In my gun, the COAL to the leades slightly exceeds 3" with some of the high ogive bullets like the Scirocco 130's and VLD 140's. My 140 VLD load has a COAL of 3" (.009" jump) and would need more jump to work in a 3" box mag. Also, consider that the mag follower needs to be machined for the wide body 284 round, which isn't a big deal for someone with the right tools. DF
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 4,278
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 4,278 |
Dober....or..."nah I ain't a gonna say it" I ll say it. Nothing that a good .270 wouldn't do Lefty C
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,242 Likes: 11
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 37,242 Likes: 11 |
You're right, Lefty. A buddy and I hunt antelopes in NM, he shooting a .270, me a 6.5-284. Out there, not a nickels worth of difference.
Mine will beat his on a bench rest, but out there, not a nickel's worth of difference...
Dead speed goats, can't tell the difference.
DF
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 14,475
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 14,475 |
Would a 6.5 x 284 work on a rebarreled Montana?
24" fluted Lilja?
I'm thinking of going that route...... I don't see why not David and the i've never had mess with a mag follower or rails in Remingtons. I can send you a dummy round at 2.90 to see how it could possible work. 2.9 will work with 140 Bergers. 25" I think is the magic length for this round, though 24" certainly will work.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 904
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 904 |
So would a 6.5-284 be better on the model 20 3.0" magazine or the model 24 3.375" magazine?
I have a 30-06 model 24 I'm consider rebarrelling and wondering if the 6.5-284 was a good option.
|
|
|
|
562 members (10gaugemag, 160user, 1Longbow, 10Glocks, 1badf350, 1beaver_shooter, 63 invisible),
3,458
guests, and
1,242
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,194,743
Posts18,535,405
Members74,041
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|