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I really do recommend that you fells take an excursion and see for yourselves that Seafire and Boggy are telling the truth and fact. Why are so many of these "Starving" kids wearing $100 sneakers?? They all seem to have enuff for cell phones too. Schitcan the program. Come to my neck of the woods. No under-priveliged kids wearing $100 sneakers. But I'm sure you're not interested in anyone who legitimately wants to learn, and is under-fed. You're just another one of those, anything that takes taxes is bad kind of people. Get what's yours and screw the rest. I'm so glad the rest of the country doesn't agree with you on this topic. Whether you agree with ET or not, you are way wrong about him. That's a fact Cole.Jim and I have never met yet but hopefully will soon...I can guarantee he's an outstanding individual,my friend and what he touched on has merit.We all may have our differences about this topic but sometimes the emotions may get in the way. For me I grew up in a small mining town in WV.and got to see real poverty first hand as a kid,it wasn't pretty.Folks in that state were always looking for their next meal and how to feed and clothe their children.I went to school with many who barely had the clothes on their back and three good squares a day. My Dad was a Methodist minister for those of you that don't know and our church always had a food bank in operation,how many families we gave gave assistance to over the years I can't even imagine the numbers.These folks were born into this environment and knew nothing but scrounging for their daily living with a total lack of education,job skills and their past wasn't conducive for self improvement.So did we let them fall through the cracks of society? absolutely not and ask me how much Govt assistance was around at that time..mostly Zilch and what there was couldn't have fed a humming bird!! I know today's world is much different but people's needs haven't changed over time. Guys very rarely do I bring in Christianity to any of my replies that's up for each individual to decide between him/her and their maker but what I do know is that sometimes we need to do what our Lord would have us do..and that my friends is lookout for our fellow man...
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THAT is why I work with my St. Vincent dePaul Society. It is the right thing to do and NOT .gov mandated!
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Flem,
I have strong WVa roots also.. and I think you can verify this..
folks in WVa were taught to appreciate assistance from others and many of those same folks would help someone else out in need, even when they had little to spare...
but that is not the S.O.P. in today's world...
and those kids in WVa weren't throwing away half to two thirds of the food given to them...
My grandmother's family was a lot more well off than most in the county she was from... but she wore shoes to school two day from first grade to graduation...the first day of school, and she was ribbed by all the other kids who didn't have any, so she never wore a pair to school again, regardless of the weather... so she didn't stand out..
she wore a pair of shoes to the last day of school for graduation... only because her parents insisted on it...
but in that environment there was no wasted anything.. if you outgrew something, you gave it to someone it could fit..and among many of my family, it is still that way to this day...
but even if I am not probably a fraction of the Christian you are, I do remember from sunday school many moons ago...
give a man a fish, you feed him for a day... teach them how to fish and you feed them for a lifetime... the bible taught a Christian act was teaching self reliance...not teaching them to be dependent on others for their own basic survival...
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Everyone can find someone who truly needs heip. But then you can find ten rats that play the system. Hasbeen
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THAT is why I work with my St. Vincent dePaul Society. It is the right thing to do and NOT .gov mandated! Terry I KNOW exactly what you do and I wish more in the private sector would do the same.Hope you guys don't misinterpret my stance on this subject,I'm certainly NOT for bigger government entitlements but at the same time there are good people out there that need assistance.The ones abusing the system just as well be criminals IMO and I don't like it anymore than the rest of you.We do have a welfare state in place no bones about it,there needs to be a weening of the Govt teet that's for sure but my concern is for the innocent who bare the burden of their parents...to turn the other cheek on them is heartless...
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Some schools get more Federal money, the more they have signed up on the "free lunch" program. I suspect that's what this is.
Social experimentation is really what this is.
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Flem, I think we all applaud your stance of compassion...
and we really wished the system wasn't abuses...
but directly or indirectly these kids have to pay the price tag for their parents indulgences, whether we like it or not..there is no getting around it...
I am also not for taking children away from their parents, which it the mission of child services...
but there are a lot of parents in this country that don't deserve the kids the good lord blessed them with...and mom and dad need some real serious attitude adjustment heaped upon them..
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Just give the kids a free lunch of beans and rice,all they can eat.
Same goes for welfare all they can handle.Soon they will get tired of eating them and get their ass in gear to better themselves.
If not free just charge a quarter of 50 cents.I know of no one that couldn't handle that.
If some shared cost was involved I wouldn't be bothered with the program.
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there are a lot of parents in this country that don't deserve the kids the good lord blessed them with...and mom and dad need some real serious attitude adjustment heaped upon them.. John I couldn't agree more,it's almost a damned if ya do and damned if ya don't scenario when it comes to assistance!!
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I'm as tired as anyone of dead-beats feeding off the public teet but a program that provides breakfast, lunch and snacks to some hungry kids is at the back of the line when it comes to problems.
As others have said, it's the POS parents that are the issue. I WOULD be all for mandatory sterilization and drug testing for those asking for welfare though......
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I really do recommend that you fells take an excursion and see for yourselves that Seafire and Boggy are telling the truth and fact. Why are so many of these "Starving" kids wearing $100 sneakers?? They all seem to have enuff for cell phones too. Schitcan the program. Come to my neck of the woods. No under-priveliged kids wearing $100 sneakers. But I'm sure you're not interested in anyone who legitimately wants to learn, and is under-fed. You're just another one of those, anything that takes taxes is bad kind of people. Get what's yours and screw the rest. I'm so glad the rest of the country doesn't agree with you on this topic. Whether you agree with ET or not, you are way wrong about him. That's a fact Cole.Jim and I have never met yet but hopefully will soon...I can guarantee he's an outstanding individual,my friend and what he touched on has merit.We all may have our differences about this topic but sometimes the emotions may get in the way. For me I grew up in a small mining town in WV.and got to see real poverty first hand as a kid,it wasn't pretty.Folks in that state were always looking for their next meal and how to feed and clothe their children.I went to school with many who barely had the clothes on their back and three good squares a day. My Dad was a Methodist minister for those of you that don't know and our church always had a food bank in operation,how many families we gave gave assistance to over the years I can't even imagine the numbers.These folks were born into this environment and knew nothing but scrounging for their daily living with a total lack of education,job skills and their past wasn't conducive for self improvement.So did we let them fall through the cracks of society? absolutely not and ask me how much Govt assistance was around at that time..mostly Zilch and what there was couldn't have fed a humming bird!! I know today's world is much different but people's needs haven't changed over time. Guys very rarely do I bring in Christianity to any of my replies that's up for each individual to decide between him/her and their maker but what I do know is that sometimes we need to do what our Lord would have us do..and that my friends is lookout for our fellow man... This is a pretty good summation of my thoughts on the matter, and the statists need to butt out, because unlike the poor of yesteryear, these folks demand handouts for nothing. I'd give anyone in need help, its the gunpoint theft I take issue with.
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I know that there are lots of kids that only get food to eat at school and the school even sends food home on Friday so they can eat on the weekend. If we are shipping food all over the world to feed non-Americans, them why not feed our own? There are a lot of racist here. Race, ain't got schit to do with .gov extortion of funds. And, as to the kids elsewhere in the world; ain't our problem, neither. Charities, or let their own damned people figure it out. There's still a lot of racist here.
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Flem, I think we all applaud your stance of compassion...
and we really wished the system wasn't abuses...
but directly or indirectly these kids have to pay the price tag for their parents indulgences, whether we like it or not..there is no getting around it...
I am also not for taking children away from their parents, which it the mission of child services...
DCS can't take a child without a court order or judgement. The precentage of children taken from a family -vs- the number of cases is very low. The majority of time DCS and the courts, just wants the parents to comply, with a parenting solution, that DCS has implemented for the family. DCS's goal isn't to put children in foster care, unless the home & parents are a risk to the children.
but there are a lot of parents in this country that don't deserve the kids the good lord blessed them with...and mom and dad need some real serious attitude adjustment heaped upon them..
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I know that there are lots of kids that only get food to eat at school and the school even sends food home on Friday so they can eat on the weekend. If we are shipping food all over the world to feed non-Americans, them why not feed our own? There are a lot of racist here. Race, ain't got schit to do with .gov extortion of funds. And, as to the kids elsewhere in the world; ain't our problem, neither. Charities, or let their own damned people figure it out. There's still a lot of racist here. There's a lot of stupid here, too. You fill that billet, all by yourself.
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they are teaching kids socialism.........frickin scary. i do feel for the kids of losers however. but them using assistance in front of others will motivate them to do better in there lifetime. not get it all for free. #1 problem in this country and will spark the revolution in my opinion But hay their only victims how else are they going to get along. But as good little socialist we can all be proud of them.
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My local public school does that. It's a damn good school and I'm okay with it. There are some really nice, cute kids with some POS parents, and often it's the only decent meal they get.
There's a lot of chit our government does that doesn't make sense. But putting a good meal in the belly of the child of a drug addict while they're getting an education isn't one of them. Chances are that poor kid doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell. Or perhaps maybe it does. The ONLY chance that kid has is education. Learning enough to know what mom is doing is wrong, and he/she doesn't have to live that way. Ask me how I know this... you make a good euro socialist Kevin.  Yeah, lets borrow some more money and give it to Israel, they got some real good socialism going on, well maybe not lately. No posts about that on the CF. My god the Israelis, Pakistanis, Egyptians,.... need our help! [bleep] if we ever think of investing in our country and infrastructure.
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I would rather have kids in school getting a few 'squares' a day than out on the street selling their bodies or peddling dope-I don't like most taxes these days, but that is one I am happy to pay.
Besides, kids are important, and I can't really see that it is their fault they have parents that for whatever reason can't/won't provide food.
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Flem, I think we all applaud your stance of compassion...
and we really wished the system wasn't abuses...
but directly or indirectly these kids have to pay the price tag for their parents indulgences, whether we like it or not..there is no getting around it...
I am also not for taking children away from their parents, which it the mission of child services...
DCS can't take a child without a court order or judgement. The precentage of children taken from a family -vs- the number of cases is very low. The majority of time DCS and the courts, just wants the parents to comply, with a parenting solution, that DCS has implemented for the family. DCS's goal isn't to put children in foster care, unless the home & parents are a risk to the children.
but there are a lot of parents in this country that don't deserve the kids the good lord blessed them with...and mom and dad need some real serious attitude adjustment heaped upon them.. Maybe in your part of Tennessee, but in Oregon, believe me, I have supporter a family or two that has been devastated and broken up by DHS... two kids come to mind.. that were adopted foster kids... but the drug using daughter was turned in to the cops by her mom, for her and her husband breaking in and robbing about 5 grand worth of stuff and cash to spend on drugs... so in return she turned her mother in for 'child abuse to the foster kids..' both kids had been abused before they were adopted, and one had major medical issues.. well after it was all said and done, Mom is in a nursing home, the female foster kid died in the hospital... and the boy is now over 18 and is serving a 20 year sentence in Oregon State Penn for sex crimes with a minor... just like what had happened to him... yeah Dept of Human Services are real constructive people... they create problems to create job security for themselves is all I see...
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I would rather have kids in school getting a few 'squares' a day than out on the street selling their bodies or peddling dope-I don't like most taxes these days, but that is one I am happy to pay.
Besides, kids are important, and I can't really see that it is their fault they have parents that for whatever reason can't/won't provide food. Nice to see you posting again.
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NYS has the highest property taxes in the US. School taxes are horridly high. Fed gov and State do all the programs and the results are things get WORSE. The kids are "graduated" from grade school and High School on what we call "social promotion". The rural ares especially to the North have real poverty. The kids get the meals and they actually learn and graduate. The parents actually insist on it. By far the majority of schools and "students" in the state are urban. They are miserable failures. When someone gets their heads out of their collective asses and figure out WHERE to allocate the resources, I'll be a LOT less sanguine about it. Until then,I am definitely NOT a fan of the program overall.
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