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When this thread started I remembered when you posted the story of killing that buck and the Ruger you used. I thought it was about a perfect set up.
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Hard to argue with a CRF 308 of some sort. The Ruger is stupid-strong/simple. I'd go with a 6x36 or variable over a 4X but that's just me. Would also add, I can't see the need for a bullet like the 165 TTSX in the 308 Win to be used on deer and such. As Rancho Loco pointed out, Federal Blue Box would be hard to beat.
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Can't argue with that.
I went with a stainless M77Hawkeye .308 All Weather. Had the barrel fluted and bolt Handel skeletonized just because. Trigger set at 2-3/4lbs. Started out with a Leupold FXII 6X but have since changed to a Zeiss Conquest 2.5-8X32. Mostly shoot Nosler 150AB, but will try the 130TTSX someday.
That is a nice setup all around - rifle, cartridge, scope and bullet. Used a 150g AB to take down my elk last fall, albeit with a Ruger .30-06 instead of a .308.
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[quote=Dogger]I got to thinking that I spend way too much time on the nuance of ballistic gack and reloading and really just need to add something to the stable that makes so much sense it is sinful to not use it as my go-to rifle ALL the time. Since I hunt in the east, I figure this set up gets it done with a minimum of fuss from coyotes to white tails to black bear:
Out of the box Ruger M77 chambered in .308 Winchester
Leupold 4X scope
Uncle Mike's Mountain Sling
Factory Federal 165 grain Barnes Triple-Shock X
Can anyone think of anything more effective and reliable, for less money out the door? Can't argue with that. I went with a stainless M77Hawkeye .308 All Weather. Had the barrel fluted and bolt Handel skeletonized just because. Trigger set at 2-3/4lbs. Started out with a Leupold FXII 6X but have since changed to a Zeiss Conquest 2.5-8X32. Mostly shoot Nosler 150AB, but will try the 130TTSX someday. That is a nice setup all around - rifle, cartridge, scope and bullet. Used a 150g AB to take down my elk last fall, albeit with a Ruger .30-06 instead of a .308. How much for the "Handel" work? Wow.
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How much for the "Handel" work? Wow. Can't say for sure.I had everything done as a package, barrel, Handel, trigger. I wanted the the bolt fluted and skeletonized but they said they couldn't do much with the bolt because of the 2 piece type bolt that Ruger uses. So just the handel was done along with barrel and trigger. Don't think I would do it again with a Ruger, it didn't take much weight out of the Ruger, but I did wonders (weight wise) with a Remington 700 Stainless SPS in 257 Weatherby.
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I got to thinking that I spend way too much time on the nuance of ballistic gack and reloading and really just need to add something to the stable that makes so much sense it is sinful to not use it as my go-to rifle ALL the time. Since I hunt in the east, I figure this set up gets it done with a minimum of fuss from coyotes to white tails to black bear:
Out of the box Ruger M77 chambered in .308 Winchester
Leupold 4X scope
Uncle Mike's Mountain Sling
Factory Federal 165 grain Barnes Triple-Shock X
Can anyone think of anything more effective and reliable, for less money out the door? Can't argue with that. I went with a stainless M77Hawkeye .308 All Weather. Had the barrel fluted and bolt Handel skeletonized just because. Trigger set at 2-3/4lbs. Started out with a Leupold FXII 6X but have since changed to a Zeiss Conquest 2.5-8X32. Mostly shoot Nosler 150AB, but will try the 130TTSX someday. ![[Linked Image]](http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b273/308LD/044.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b273/308LD/M77Hawkeye005.jpg) Is that the picture of a deer from Montana? I remember a few pics of a deer from there that I thought was the best looking whitetail I've seen.
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That's a HUGE scope for that little rifle....thought of a 4X Leupold? A Rem 700, or one of it's variants is the LAST rifle I would pick for reliability.....a Ruger M77 Mark II or Hawkeye or a Model 70 would be the most commonly available new rifle I would consider. A stainless 308 or 30-06 with a 2.5-8X Leupold would be my pick. Beginning to think this might be my version........ Remington 600 Mohawk......308 Win.....1.5-6x42 Sightron SSII ![[Linked Image]](http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f354/rahtreelimbs/600002.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f354/rahtreelimbs/600001.jpg)
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A stainless 308 or 30-06 with a 2.5-8X Leupold would be my pick.
Here's mine from this morning... Kimber 308 Win and 2.5-8 Leupold: ![[Linked Image]](http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa326/bradmacmt/Gun%20Stuff/kimbermt308win9-4-11.jpg)
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near perfection in a lightweight....
A stainless 308 or 30-06 with a 2.5-8X Leupold would be my pick.
Here's mine from this morning... Kimber 308 Win and 2.5-8 Leupold:
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My "go to" 308: ![[Linked Image]](http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p266/Gasman_photos/Web/DSC008192.jpg) Ignore the sling in the photo. The rifle wears a simple Biothane one now.
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Offside comeups and ring spacing are equally interesting.
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Re: the comeups on the far side (and they're upside down, too), if I'm on the rifle and I need to refer to the chart, I just lean the stock in a little towards me to read it. The rings are mounted on a 0 degree Picatinny rail, hence the spacing.
Boxer, I'm sure you recognize the stock as being a G&H. I seem to recall that you favor those if one must shoot a Winchester. I'm still hopeful that McMillan will bring them back...
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I'd reckon it an odd occurrence when snuggling near a stock that the inside is not the leading edge next to my blinkers. I was under the impression that a stretched 1913 rail irregardless of inclination,was a ripe vehicle from which to extoll maximum ring spacing so as to bolster the harmonious sanctity of POA/POI intersection in the long term. My bad.
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I'll admit the blown primers were unsafe loading practices, but lack of "basic maintence," problems I don't buy. That's because other actions don't have these problems under the same conditions. E I think you were talking about things not working properly because of dirt/debris or mechanisms gumming up sticking/stuck if I'm not mistaken. Those aren't rifle action design issues. To bad Big Stick isn't here to share some of the pics of his Montucky with so much rust you would think it would have stopped working altogether. Never heard him complain once about that rifle (enclosed trigger design) or any of his 700's not working and he beats the [bleep] out of everything he owns.
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I was under the impression that 700's were in hostile environments with all branches of the Service?
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No, apparently a week of stand hunting is the new test standard..
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Don't slight the "hardships" incurred by driving a 4-wheeler to a haybale.
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Haybale & Crockett is the best chance CRF has.
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