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Tony so what do you do to a M96 to make it like a G33/40?
Interesting because those are the Mitchell Mausers aren't they?They are commonly available.Often thought of using one....
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Not a bad idea at all. IIRC Mark Dobrenski has a G33 in .270 that is pretty cool. I'd probably do a Model 70 because I can't help myself.
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Has anyone ever worked with one of these custom actions from Classic Barrel and Gunwerks [color:#660000][u]El LOBO Rifle[/u][/color]
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Don't know about a 33/40, but my former '96s did not have that 3rd safety lug. In my 'youth' I nearly sent striker thru my skull by using reformed 270 and 25-06 brass for my 6.5x55 cases, did not neck turn and had .310 OD and max was .297....crimped perhaps - you think? I was lucky. I really like mauser and Old M70 actions, as love single shots, but if I wanted an old world quality rifle that I could depend to fire, extract, eject, feed.....repeat....till the day I die, I'd SERIOUSLY look at a Pre-Garcia Sako. I just am convinced they are top notch and one can do alot worse. Yes Martini Hagn are FINE falling blocks....as Dakota, Miller, and Blaser/Merkel/Krieghoff Hubertus also make fine single shots, older Brownings are nice too - 1885s. I'd view the 85 SS as a GREAT hunting tool. And the OLDER blue actions w/fine wood, a tool AND show piece Sako may not have the nostalgia and military heritage other actions carry, but I 100% trust their steel and workmanship THROUGHOUT their actions.....and the barrels were well made also. It would have to be a unique chambering if I wanted to go all out. A 6.5x47 in a short L579 (Perhaps a 20" bbl/Mannlicher stock), or a 6.5-06 or 7x57 perhaps in a L61R.....or if I wanted to hunt in bear country or hunt other large dangerous game, I'd go w/a 9.3x62 or 338-06. A Whelen would do, as a 375...but I like the OKH and 9.3 myself. Just my .02....sure others tastes vary.
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Tony so what do you do to a M96 to make it like a G33/40?
Interesting because those are the Mitchell Mausers aren't they?They are commonly available.Often thought of using one.... IIRC the Mitchell's are LR Model 48's. Another possibility is a SR Husqvarna 98.
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Single Shot - Martini & Hagn in whatever size you needed. Big +1. have had the good fortune to shoot a Hagn. They are works of art and shoot very well to boot. John
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Sako AV, I just bought one and it is FINE!
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A pre-64 model 70 or FN98 for most cartridges, but for the big guys, a Brevex magnum Mauser.
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A Dakota 76 action with the best wood can make a real heirloom. Kinda like buying a "New" Pre-64 but maybe better. Beautifully machined and comes with trigger and bottom metal...
+1. The Dakota would suit me just fine. In something like 6.5X55.
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Tony so what do you do to a M96 to make it like a G33/40?
Interesting because those are the Mitchell Mausers aren't they?They are commonly available.Often thought of using one.... IIRC the Mitchell's are LR Model 48's. Another possibility is a SR Husqvarna 98. Karnis, that's right.M48...I get these numbers confused....
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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The 33/40 would be awesome. Scarce as hens teeth, haven't seen one in years.
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Depends on the cartridge. For standard size cartridges (e.g. 30-06 size), a Mauser 98 or commercial variant, such as Argentine 1909, original Mauser Oberndorf commercial, Brno M21 (small ring), Brno ZG-47 or early post-war FN C-collar.
For .375 H&H headshell cartridges, original Oberndorf Magnum Mauser.
Wouldn't turn down a Granite Mountain or Hartman & Weiss Mauser clone or similar if I tripped over one.
All these run from fairly expensive to very, very expensive. As Mule Deer (JB) points out in an article in the current Rifle, modifying a stock Mauser to current commercial standards is not a very reasonable fiscal plan unless you do a lot of the work yourself, although there are any number of already "sporterized" Mausers that are worthless from a collector's perspective and are worth a look if the work was well done. As he further points out, a Mauser is not the best action to pick if you are going to use one of the modern short action fat cartridges because they were not designed to feed them reliably, and need to be worked on.
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Depends on the cartridge. For standard size cartridges (e.g. 30-06 size), a Mauser 98 or commercial variant, such as Argentine 1909, original Mauser Oberndorf commercial, Brno M21 (small ring), Brno ZG-47 or early post-war FN C-collar.
For .375 H&H headshell cartridges, original Oberndorf Magnum Mauser.
Wouldn't turn down a Granite Mountain or Hartman & Weiss Mauser clone or similar if I tripped over one.
All these run from fairly expensive to very, very expensive. As Mule Deer (JB) points out in an article in the current Rifle, modifying a stock Mauser to current commercial standards is not a very reasonable fiscal plan unless you do a lot of the work yourself, although there are any number of already "sporterized" Mausers that are worthless from a collector's perspective and are worth a look if the work was well done. As he further points out, a Mauser is not the best action to pick if you are going to use one of the modern short action fat cartridges because they were not designed to feed them reliably, and need to be worked on.
That covers it pretty well..I would just add "budget" to the mix. I love Double Square Bridge Mauser Actions. The Brno 21 small ring would be a great choice as well as the Brno zg47 large ring. For a new action Granite Mountain DSB would work nicely, if it would work in your budget. CZ 550 would work well for a large round big bore. Here is a Ralf Martini 404 Jeffery built on a Granite Mountain Standard Mag. Action. At 8.25 lbs bare, also handles and points like a dream...very accurate also! http://www.granitemountainarms.com/martini.htmlTwo cape buffalo and a few plains game to its credit. Ralf Martini is among the best gunmakers anywhere....and a really good guy to boot!
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I just got off the phone with Savage99. He told me to tell you Remington 700 . I say Model 70.
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You want "old school" go with the pre 64 model 70. I was originaly thinking newhaven classic model 70, but that isn't really old school. The g33/40 would be the bomb, but good luck finding one. I've seen pics of them but have never had one in my hand . They sure are nice to look at from this side of the screen though.
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Thank goodness we were all able to chime in. I'm sure Harv has narrowed the list down to at least 15 different actions. Now that that problem is solved, how about we talk about triggers, safeties, barrels, calibers, blanks, checkering, sights, mounts, scopes, twist rates, boolits, gunsmiths and stockmakers. I'm thinking we could have it narrowed down by this time next year. Before we start let me head down to the sto' for some popcorn and beer. Be right back to provide additional worthless comments for the peanut gallery.
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Seen a few re-makes of the 98s over the years. Why not a re-make of the 'elusive' 33/40? Is it ltd. to cartridge choices? Shorter? Educate me if someone will please. Be likely hard to beat functionally etc. taking a Ruger in 30-06 or perhaps 9.3x62, and dropping a new aftermarket trigger in it, then spend all your dough on some gorgeous fancy walnut, have it bedded properly, then finished/checkered....... Nah, that'd be too easy, I'd want custom everything myself....my wallet woundn't be happy.... I recall Bob Milek in later years wanting a build...end result a 1909 in 30-06, whole config looked about like a Ruger 77, inc. stock design IIRC. YET, he had a custom....so it was special to him. As it should be when you want a custom. So Karnis, now Harv can look at the 15 choices and whittle it down! Never cut and dry. I did handle a Smith and Wesson Mannlicher '06 once....seemed the action was a Husqvarna...it was Buttery SMOOOTH.!!! LOL. Harv - did you say 'old school?' Look here: http://www.rathcoombe.net/sci-tech/classics/mannlicher-1895/classic_mannlicher.htmlI think it's unique eye candy...in my kinda caliber.
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A commercial FN 98. They're smooth, classic, strong and not prone to losing the bolt handle. Also no thumb cut in the left side of the action.
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