Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire More of Ron Paul's intelligence showing

So, so many people with no concept whatever of the difference between a government and its subjects.

Chances are good that a large percentage of these same people regularly and proudly recite the Pledge of Allegiance from memory, triumphantly emphasizing the "under GOD!" part, and neither hearing nor comprehending the rest of the words that come out of their mouths.

(Yes, I know who wrote it and why and at the behest of whom, and I know what schoolchildren used to be taught to do while they recited it, and I know that most people have no idea and don't care; but it seems to me people ought to be responsible for the actual products of their own pie-holes.)

The subjects of the Soviet Union were so much smarter than we are in this country. Heck, a dog is smarter than we are, because if you chain a dog and beat him, at least he'll growl at you.

Sheesh.

Speaking of imbeciles, look what the cat drug in from his little private, hidden forum here at the Campfire....

OK, so you've pretty much shown your hand now. You don't believe in law, period, i.e., you're an authoritarian. I appreciate your honesty.

You now extrapolate that the man doesn't believe in the law,period,huh?? You're such a doltish,drama queen.

Extrapolate??? I'm not seeing any wiggle room in what he said.

Extrapolate??? I'm not seeing any wiggle room in what he said.
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I'm quite familiar with your extraordinary limitations and inabilities.

We haven't won a single "war" since WWII all we have done is waste precious lives and treasure. The Constitution is our legal foundation for a reason. But hey, we ignore the Constitution for everything else we might as well ignore it concerning war to.

Or he might believe in law, but simply be suffused with a profound distrust of and contempt for government legislation and government courts.

I've come to this conclusion as well Steve --- I'd say that he is usually right, but way off occasionally though. Enough so that I don't want him for Commander and Chief anymore.

He still managed to change the whole scope of the debates with his messages about particularly the economy and the Fed, so I guess he has done a lot of good for this country even if unelectable.

Former Paulie

Why try to sidestep the subject? Do you consider the rag head to be innocent or guilty of masterminding the murder of Americans? Do you think killing him was to severe a penalty?

Dude---Not so. We have kept the world safe for Democracy and the American way of Life. If you Pacifists had your way we would be in an even sorrier state than we now find ourselves.

Think of all those trillions we would now be spending on the Socialist/Welfare state,

So, Hawk, how come you haven't answered my very simple questions?

You missed it, Woodrow. Go back and check again. You'll find it.

What difference is there between killing this Al-Qaeda boss and killing somebody in self-defense?

The fact that he was born in the US and was therefore de jure an American citizen does not seem to override the needs of self-defense.

The lib-cap parts in me entirely agree with this military action successfully conducted against not just an enemy of the US, but against an enemy of the American people.

An attempt to capture him and bring him to tribnal would have cost American lives and might have failed. Worse still, in case of success it would have given him, Al-Qaeda and many other enemies of America a tribune to hurt the US and the American people.

I am surprised to see so many who agree with the right of individual self-defense are disagreeing with the necessity to kill this terrorist at the earliest opportunity.


PS - What is wrong though is that the WH and the DOJ refuse to publish the legal analysis that was conducted prior to the action: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...ins-why-obama-can-kill-americans/246004/

I believe you are correct and THAT is the REAL problem.

There is nothing in the Constitution that grants the President or Congress the authority to "keep the world safe for Democracy" nor promote the "American way of life" throughout the world. The cost of doing so has made the international banking cartel very rich and bankrupted the US which is close to total failure.

We are spending trillions on the Welfare State and the military has become one of our largest entitlement programs.

I have no idea what ANY presidential candidate would do in this situation. Hope that clears things up a bit.

H'mmmm,,,let's see. Therefore we, here in the U.S. of A., should all turn in our firearms to ensure that will never happen. Right?

What say we re-examine the 2nd amendment and its intent. Your thoughts?

Pointless point is that it can and does cut both ways pending your perspective.

Good point well taken.

Many on the Fire are good authoritarians who will goose step in a straight line to the government wants and needs. Oh, they talk a good game but that's about it.