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Made the "mistake" of looking on the Shiloh website at their inventory of rifles in stock yesterday. Low and behold, they had one that is nearly identical to what I would have custom ordered, so I contacted my FFL guy, called Shiloh and bought another rifle.

#3 Sporter w/pewter tip and custom bedded forend, 30" hvy bbl, semi-fancy wood, traditional steel shotgun buttplate and barrel sights . . . in 45-90. They won't be able to ship it until Monday, but I should have it by the end of the week.

Now to find and get some brass headed this way. Will start with my typical Lyman 457125 bullet cast 30:1. Any particular quirks to this chambering (ET or EH?) I need to know about? Pretty well versed with the 45-70 but never had a 45-90.

Thanks, Mom. I know you didn't understand my (and our) fascination with these old rifles, but you never said anything to discourage it.

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45/90 was the old comp round. They always used a PP slug. Regardless, go heavy on bullet and powder.

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You'll like the 45-2.4 or -90. It's a lot like the 45-70 only more of a good thing. I've been shooting one for...ummm...16 years. The 457125 should work admirably but I never used it in mine. I bought an NEI mold that throws a 480 gr. bullet that reminds me a great deal of an elongated Keith type SWC. Great hunting bullet with a nice, wide meplat. As I never used mine for competition I never worked up a target load so I can't offer any suggestions. My hunting load is 80 grs. of GOEX Ctg., .030 Walters Wonder Wad and the aforementioned NEI bullet lubed with SPG. Sure took a lot of game with that load in my Montana Roughrider.


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Check with Jamison for brass.http://www.jamisoninternational.com/product-p/ji4590w.htm

KIK 1.5 has been prooving itself for several folks shooting the 90.


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Otter, you're gonna love the rifle. Here's the straight scoop on what you need. Get Starline brass. Great, consistent brass, properly headstamped, and reasonably priced. Load 84 grains of KIK 2f, a thin card wad--.030 or less--and the 457125 Govt. bullet. Light it up with a CCI BR2 primer, and you are in business.

Another killer load is Starline cases and 77 grains of KIK 2f, a card wad and a BR2 primer pushing a 480 grain Lyman flatnosed bullet out of Lyman mold number 457121. This is an incredibly flat shooting, accurate bullet and I have used both it and the Govt. bullet in Africa with good success.

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Dittos on the Starline brass. Good stuff, and priced fairly.

Have fun with your new rifle.

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I'd use 3F.


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I'm pretty sure Otter knows better than that.

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3f works great and is cleaner burning.


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Swampman you do alot of bpcr shooting do you?


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I've been shooting the rifles since the late 1970s.


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Yeah, I do . . . whatever it is that swampcritter said. There is a reason I have him on ignore. Even if he wasn't, I would.


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Originally Posted by Swampman700
3f works great and is cleaner burning.


I'd hate to be a gunshop selling 3f BP after than endorsement...! shocked



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Actually 3f is usually cleaner burning.

In a 45-70.

The problem is a 45-90 is a bigger case. It's needs a slower burning powder.

Swampturd would not know that because he's never loaded for a 45-90.

And if he has, he sure as hell was not trying to get good accuracy out of it.

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Let's see, Sharpsguy says to use KiK and Swampodor says 3F. I'll get back to y'all just as soon as I did up the picture of him and his doofus hat... BTW, rumor mill has it our own ET's feeling as nervous as a whoreinchurch as Shiloh just contacted him that his 44/90 is ready.... Sweating are we ol' buddy? grin

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ET hears the church bells ringing, all right. That 44-90BN is the Real Deal once you get it dialed in. Anybody have any popcorn? It's almost showtime.

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44-90 is the real deal when the shooter gets a handle on the thing.
Sounds like Kurt has got his backup and running again, says he's going to Milan with it next week.
Cinda couldn't find my rifle yesterday..


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crazyRifle....coming....must keep.....calm Shipping money in,FFL sent as of yesterday afternoon. Mebbe here tomorrow or Friday afternoon latest

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The one on the far left is a 44/90 wid a 490g PP slug over 100 g FF Express. We'll see
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The 45/110 and a 30/06 for comparison.

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