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I am looking at running a sub-panel to a detached garage. The distance is about 35-40 ft. What size UF electrical line do I need for a 60 amp 220v sub-panel???

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6/2 w/ground from the main panel to the sub-panel and be sure to ground the sub-panel with a ground rod at the shop.

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if your in a frost zone i personally would run pvc, and pull your own #6s im not a big fan of direct burial cable.


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Originally Posted by acooper1983
if your in a frost zone i personally would run pvc, and pull your own #6s im not a big fan of direct burial cable.


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6-3 wg for the subfeed

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The sub panel should have a main disconnect too. Ken


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I did this very thing for my barn. I buried 2 conduits, both 1 1/2". In one I ran 3, 6ga THHN conductors, 2 hots and 1 neutral. The ground for the sub panel in the barn was supplied by a separate ground rod driven into the ground near the barn. The second conduit is for future use.

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Originally Posted by rahtreelimbs
I am looking at running a sub-panel to a detached garage. The distance is about 35-40 ft. What size UF electrical line do I need for a 60 amp 220v sub-panel???



This should work for you, just add in the numbers and distance and it will tell you what you should need.

http://www.csgnetwork.com/wiresizecalc.html


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Originally Posted by rahtreelimbs
I am looking at running a sub-panel to a detached garage. The distance is about 35-40 ft. What size UF electrical line do I need for a 60 amp 220v sub-panel???


220v 60 A, sounds like a cracker box welder set-up? Or, your gonna get your feet wet getting the dry clothes, cause mama aint gonna go get'em!


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Originally Posted by budman5
6-3 wg for the subfeed


Yes.

+1 on the disconnect (within 8' of where it enters the structure), and the ground rods (or UFER) in addition.

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If it's getting inspected, be sure to ask the inspector what he looks for so he'll be happy when he comes out. eg. some folks have adopted a new code for ground rod installation.


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by new code you have to carry 4 wire.... 6-3 with ground is correct. In conduit makes more sense.

I don't have my book at home but 6-3 shoudl suffice, thats a short run, but IMHO I'd run a bit more just for future possible loads... but thats just me....


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Six guage copper will work, but four guage aluminium will also work and it might be cheaper.

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Why only 60 amp?


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Here is a story to support the driven ground advice here. When I worked for the electric company, I was called to a fairly new home that had had trouble after a bad lightning storm. The family had bought home the from the person that built it by himself. About all of the electronics in the home were taken out by the storm. The nice electric panel was in the attached garage. The first thing I noticed was a rail road crow bar (spud bar?) leaning on the front of the panel. When I removed the bar, I noticed a large burn on the panel door. I looked at the concrete floor and it was freckled around the bottom of the bar. The lightning had gone to the rebar in the garage floor.

Bottom line. There was no driven ground for the home. When the lightning entered, it was looking for a path to ground. It found it. This was a rural home that had no inspects.

GFI's depend on grounds also.

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The "ground wire" (actually a bonding wire) is for clearing a fault downstream of your meter (one you generate). The ground rods/ UFER/ water bond are all for clearing faults that generate upstream of your meter.

If you are worried (and I mean really worried) about a big fault like a lightning strike or a malfunctioning transformer, get a TVSS (transient Voltage Surge Suppressor).

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Originally Posted by tzone
Why only 60 amp?



Because the max I need is 60amp. No more than one piece of equipment is used at a time. This is for a garage setup for metal working tools..........welders and the kind!

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Are you going to have the lights on while welding?? How many lights? Wattage? It ALL adds up. Give yourself some room. (future expansion?)
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Most towns that have a code have a minum for a subfeed panel where I live and work 70 amp is the minum.I would run nothing smaller than #2 alum. or #4 copper.

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