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WOW..dude!
My good friend here in Charlotte was a Marine in '68 and lost a guy from his company after a firefire,he was running from troop carrier to troop carrier,count heads, calling names, packin up put to pull out when he was hit by a lone rifle round and later Medicv' out. Ten years,Bob is a cop in Jacksonville,NC called out for a barfight,as punches are being thrown, the first guy to get cuffed was my freinds missing Marine from that day in '68!!You never know..

This has been a good thread.

This is why I have no respect for Gus.

you don't need to respect Gus unless you choose to do so. i got my time in, and got out as a Spc 5, as a draftee type. i did my job, and my NCo, and related Officers appreciated my extra-efforts.

you, my friend, have yet to prove anything to me, or anyone else on the Campfire, except to be a curmurgeon.

oh, are you a draftee that served, or are you a internet warrior?

You must have been Air Force, they didn't tell the Air Cav about that. Back from the first tour I put 3 Hare Krishna units on their azz in the terminal at San Fran, or Oakland, don't remember precisely where I was. Weren't much of an accomplishment really, they expected me to stop and chat, guess they were surprised. Air Cav with an 80# duffel on the shoulder is a lot of inertia....

Know you're not looking for advice but...let it go...accept the fact that you are better than people like that, we all were, and still are. They are that 10% that never catch on and aren't worth a second thought. Even if they are on fire.

That makes two of us Jim, I will never get past, just can't do it. I pulled too many wounded back to base and way to many bodies, I will NEVER forget!

Internet Warrior I'm no curmurgeon either, at 32 I think the proper term is a hole.

I just have no tolerance for comments that can make any of our solider heros feel bad for doing their jobs. Don't they already suffer enough from depression and PTSD?

Re:
"54 soldiers on attended Thomas Edison High School in Philadelphia . (I wonder why so many from one school?)"

Wow - I thought my high school contributed more than its fair share (seven - with one MoH, IIRC) - due, in part, no doubt to being the closest high school to Fort Benning, GA (even closer than the Poobah's). My schoolmates had lots of brothers and fathers in 'Nam; the father of one survived his stint as a POW.
Memory may fail me here; but I think there are 13 Ivy League graduates listed on the Wall.

thank you for your response. as a 32 year old, you're about the same age of my youngest son. he didn't face the draft or anything similar.

i was drafted, and was willing to do my best in an unfortunate set of circumstances. they (the Army) didn't need me, but they asked for my assistance anyways.

when a National Gov't like the US, under the control of Pres. Johnson, Defense Secretary McNamara, and General Westmoreland can define the lives of tons of draftees and volunteers, alike, then who's to complain? the people who disagreed, and fled to Canada??

you sound like some child who protects his Father under all circumstances. My Father told you to do that, and i'm his child, and i want you to follow his orders. Get it? no, we don't do that anymore...get it?

August 26, 1969 5 men from my home town's national guard unit in Manchester, NH were killed in Binh Duong Province, South Vietnam when their truck hit a land mine. If I recall, they were 1 week from coming home. All 5 were friends from Manchester. Very sad, but just 1 of hundreds of stories like it I bet.

I had been back for a few months when I met up with an airport SOB in San Diego that really didn't love his country or respect members of the military. I missed my flight that day and lost my good conduct medal as well. But he got the hell beat out of him. Although the CO didn't want to, he had to spank my hands. "Can't whip up on civilians" he said and gave me 30 days in the brig which he quickly suspended. As I was walking out he shook my hand and said well done Doc.

Those were bad times for all military. Our own people had turned on us. Can't tell everyone how great it is to see the way our guys are treated now. God bless them all. They deserve our respect and admiration.

Jim

If you volunteered didnt you get your pick of MOS? If drafted
most likely you would be 11B, 13B, 19L, etc.

Also, its been awhile but at FT Sam Houston Cemetary in
San Antonio, TX there is a small section of several young
men from FT Hood, TX who are all killed in a fire fight in VN.

My prefix was RA when there WAS a difference. What I keep in mind to this day is that those who ran,those who [bleep] with us, those who rioted and committed acts of domestic terrorism (Bill Ayers,Bernadine Dorn et.al.) never kept faith with anyone or anything. Those types of creatures deserve no consideration in any way from any of us who went. I wish them misery and no good fortune. I don't forgive. That is Gods' prerogative.

First time I saw The Wall in DC, I found the name of my best friend from growing up... and also a few of my folks friends, I remembered from earlier in my childhood.

I turned to my wife with tears over my best friend Mike..and told my wife, 'as I see all these names and seeing the ones of people dear to me, I feel remorse for not going over there and serving my time...'

with that I felt a blow between my shoulder blades and my face was slammed into the Wall... then I was spun around, and here was this scrawny guy who came up to my shoulder and he shoved my back into the WALL...

" Listen A Hole! There are 58,000 guys on this wall that their families wished their sons had never had to spend one day in 'Nam.... If you managed to dodge going there, you should thank God every day of your life!!! You Dumbazz MF!!"

He let go of me and walked off cursing my words and me for saying them...

Every time I think of Vietnam, I thank God I didn't have to go over there... and quite frequently I asked God to Bless that man, where ever he may be....

Seafire, what do you ask God to bless him with?