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while I think it has little chance of passing (the lawmakers control to much influence with the current setup), at least he HAS a plan other than SS-DD.

While he wasn't my first choice, the Cain snowball has just started down the mountain. In a couple of months I expect it will have rolled right over Romney heading straight for 'ol jug ears.

You obviously did not understand the plan, go back to it and ponder on what you misunderstood.

Hmmm let's see...do away with the current federal withholdings and tax code...yup, I'm good with that. Make it a flat 9% instead...no problems there either.

9% sales tax, so EVERYONE, meaning illegals, those who make their money in shady ways, legal immigrants and visitors...EVERYONE has at least a little skin in the game...I'm good with that too. Keep in mind that at this point, 18%, we're just a tick over where we were already with the current tax code as far as actual layout.

Get rid of the capital gains tax and lowering the corporate tax to 9% means an instant influx of money into American corporations, as well as real job creation in this country. I'm trying to find a downside to that one.

See where this is going? I think you need to look a little deeper into what he's proposing. Sure it's bold and somewhat radical, what with the getting rid of the current tax code and all, but we have to take some serious steps to try to get ahead of this mess the spend crazy idiots in DC have made.

I suggest you true believers ponder what some real ecomomists have to say.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Electi...an-long-overdue-tax-reform-or-job-killer

And there are economists praising the plan as well. Your point?

The one thing that is universally true is, we need to fix the tax system we have, which has degenerated into a tool used by politicians to further their own aims, cut spending back to 18% of GDP or less, and get everyone paying into the system, so the freeloaders aren't voting a continuation of their freebies at the expense of the rest of the country.

The realities are going to set in eventually, I think it would be prudent to suck it up and try to get pro-active about it, not throw it on our kids and grandkids.

My point is that a pizza salesman with a slogan and no government management experience is no different than a community organizer with a slogan and no government management experience.

So you want to effectively double the sales tax rate in Kansas? How is that supposed to help grow the economy?

A bold idea, but not very well thought out.

You're cleverly skipping the fact that my tax rate will drop over 6% to begin with. As well as skipping the fact that eveyrone, as in those that aren't doing anything but sucking from the system, will now be paying in.

And yes, in response to your question, if it is coupled with REAL spending decreases, and I'm talking back to 18% or less of GDP, I'm good with kicking in a bit more to make sure we at least try to leave something of this country to our kids besides a huge credit card bill.

I am tired of people complaining and then not backing up their claims. Don't be a drive-by whiner. Why don't you tell us what is so bad with it? Expanding the tax base so everyone pays something and lower the top rate and the rate paid by businesses is a winner for out country.

The thing I think I'm getting the most frustrated with is this:

Insanity is doing the same thing time and time again, and expecting different results each time. We keep putting the establishment darling in office, who promptly re-hashes the same tired old schitt, and we're pissed because we get the same results.

It's time to try something else, and piss all over what the MSM says as far as who the candidate should be.

The point is that Herman Cain is a successful businessman with more integrity, grit and common sense that any of the "real" politicians in the race. Have you seen him interview the idiot Larry Odonnel? For that performance alone he desrves to win the election. He is a million time better than Obumbler and would compete with Reagan for the title of the best President in my lifetime.

The difference is that one's a socialist & the other's a capitalist...Cain has been a very successful CEO & Obama has been a very successful agitator/activist...THAT'S the difference...
A President is only as good as the people he relys on to give him accurate information & helpful insight on making decisions on which his expertise is lacking. I'm not sold on Cain but he's not looking too bad from here...at least he tends to make sound, informed decisions.

That'll be the day..............

Wait 'til someone tries to take their entitlements away, makes them pay a (flat) income tax instead of getting back a rebate (which they never paid in the 1st place) & they have to pay a federal sales tax on all their new Smart Phones, liquor, bling-bling, etc.

I'm thinking riots rather than support for those programs..............life off the plantation means WORK.

Damn reality check. Can't you let us at least dream a little?

I have been pointing out that small fly-in-the-ointment fact for some time.

Even with all his money; Romney could not beat Old Man McCain in 2008.

And that was before the Tea Party took over the GOP in 2010.

Tea Party don�t want no stinking RINO.

Tea Party don�t want the MSM picking our candidate either.

The fact is the Tea party hasn't taken over the GOP their fighting them tooth and nail. The old line party hacks in the GOP are doing everything they can to stop them. The libturds aren't the only problem.

I love this place

Gus' response to Walt is "I don't have a clue"


if Cain is the best we can do?


I don't know if he is or not at this point, but I will say he's not spent a career in politics, that's a big plus one for me.

Politicians have created the fiscal mess we are in, and to a large degree the pockets of racism of the ignorant, as Cain says, it's in the interests of Jackson, Sharpton and their ilk to keep a lot of dumb, lazy folks on the plantation, hard for them to harvest their gov't crop without modern day slaves.


intelligent people that work hard for a living, care about their families and their country, and want both to prosper, could give a chit less how much tan you sport or lack of tan

you're either helping to pull the wagon, or you're riding in the wagon


guys that I have come to admire on here both for their minds and their hearts and particularly those guys that have been born and raised in the deep South that so willingly show their support of Cain, let me know what I posted above is certainly true in this day and age.

same with the support that's been shown to Allen West.


it really is about the content fellas.


as for 999 I need to research it more, and while I don't like the idea of paying sales tax, it warms my heart to think that every drug dealer, under the table or undocumented worker and everyone is gonna pay something.

It's not replacing a tax it is just another added tax. I know you may be hopeful but my feeling is this is just another sucker punch.
They just keep giving us candidates that are equal to the half empty glass. When do we get the full meal deal?

During last year's midterm elections, Tea Party whipped the GOP Establishment in the Republican primaries and sent dozens of lawmakers to Washington who were committed to fighting big government.

Despite the MSM best efforts to anoint Mittens; I�m not picking up any sign that the RINOs have recovered from 2010.

For sure there is a Big fight going on. But until Romney breaks out in the polls, I ain�t buying the spin that the GOP Elite is top money.

It is the Tea Party holding the top cards.

probably not in one fell swoop


I don't believe until we collectively turn our backs on career politicians and vote for someone outside the halls of gov't they'll ever get the message we're fed up .


it has to start somewhere, at this point, Cain seems like the best opportunity to do so.