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It's still a very good cartridge.


It is, but...........it doesn't have the cool factor of a 7x64. grin

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Not a damn thing wrong with it.

Amen to that!

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Aint a damn thing wrong with a 280. Shooting like type/weight bullets, you'll be hard pressed to see any difference at all when shooting test media compared to a 270 or 30-06....or in heart/lung for that matter.
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clean up the chamber and barrel with a 30-06 reamer


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Nothing wrong with it!

Buy it and become a handloader.

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Just for the record, Remington's website lists 3 rifles in .280:


280 REMINGTON

Model 700 Mountain Rifle LSS
Model 700 Alaskan Ti
Model 700 XCR II


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In my opinion the 280 Rem had no business in the M740 autoloader, everyone I know wants them in a bolt action.
Did Remington ever offer it in the Sendero?

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I owned a Sako M75 in .280 which I sold to a friend, as he really wanted one. I then promptly purchased another .280, this one a Cooper.

I really like the cartridge. I am not going to say that it is "better" than the .270/'06 but it is certainly as good. Sako rifles tend to shoot very well with a number of different loads, mine always have so the amount of factory ammo should be no big deal. While not a lot of loads, there are plently of good ones for a hunting rifle.

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The .280 is the cartridge I've always wanted but could never justify the purchase of due to the fact I have a .270 and a .30-06.

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Originally Posted by whitetailhunter
The .280 is the cartridge I've always wanted but could never justify the purchase of due to the fact I have a .270 and a .30-06.


If you had a .280, you wouldn't need either of the others.... smile

(Sorry, couldn't resist... grin )


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Originally Posted by Grasshopper
Originally Posted by whitetailhunter
The .280 is the cartridge I've always wanted but could never justify the purchase of due to the fact I have a .270 and a .30-06.


If you had a .280, you wouldn't need either of the others.... smile

(Sorry, couldn't resist... grin )


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Originally Posted by Grasshopper
Originally Posted by whitetailhunter
The .280 is the cartridge I've always wanted but could never justify the purchase of due to the fact I have a .270 and a .30-06.


If you had a .280, you wouldn't need either of the others.... smile

(Sorry, couldn't resist... grin )


To use that logic, if you had a good 30-06, you certainly wouldn't "need" a .280 either..

Unless of course,you actually LIKED not being able to find ammo anywhere.

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As long as you don't try to equal a 270W and run it 5k psi over max SAAMI pressure, it's a fine cartridge.......




The Sako 280 is fully capable of the SAME pressure of ANY 270W.


My .280 pushes Barnes TSX 140's at 3050 fps with no excessive pressure signs at all, from a 22" bbl....


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Originally Posted by czech1022

I know it's a fine rifle, but ammo is getting more and more scarce
If your not hand loading, the 280 factory ammo is generally loaded to weaker pressure than factory 270 ammo.

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Originally Posted by jim62


To use that logic, if you had a good 30-06, you certainly wouldn't "need" a .280 either..

Unless of course,you actually LIKED not being able to find ammo anywhere.


There's this thing called the internet now where you can order ammo and have it shipped to your door.

Midway lists 22 different boxes of ammo of .280 Rem for sale. Damn near obsolete....

I've never not seen 280 Rem ammo in any gun store bigger than a baitshop. Course I load and tend to not forget to bring important stuff like ammo when I hunt, so I don't have to rely on Bucky's Bait and Car Repair to save my hunt.


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I've never had a 740 Auto loader, but I do have a 7400 Auto in 280. It's been 100% reliable, and it is as accurate as any rifle that I have ever fired. It shoots cloverleafs with Winchester Supreme Fail Safes. They are a tad spendy at around $35 for a box of 20, but I ordered all that I will likely ever need on the Web. I do believe the have morphed the Fail Safes into a new improved cartridge now, and I have not tried them. I also roll my own, and my 280 will never be for sale. I started with an 06 (Colt Sauer), and I love it. I have a Savage 270 that shoots great. I had a Ruger 7 mag, but it would not shoot to my expectations, but to be fair, it was probably due to my flinch from the recoil/muzzle blast. It was acceptable at shorter ranges, but at longer pokes, I didn't feel confident enough to make a clean kill. My favorite for big game (deer, bear, hog), by far, is the old Amish Assault Rifle in 280. I did remove the plastic dust cover to keep it from rattling and spooking deer. YMMV.

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I have often thought of working w/ a 280 Rem., I think it would be a fine cartridge, thinkin' a nice featherweight winny would be about perfect.
Got two 270's, a 7x57, and a 7Rum, just no room.......although I could sell the Rum and one 270. grin

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Originally Posted by alpinecrick
Originally Posted by czech1022


What's wrong with the .280?


As long as you don't try to equal a 270W and run it 5k psi over max SAAMI pressure, it's a fine cartridge.......



Yeah, Remington, Cooper, Browning, Weatherby only stamp the weaker actions .280 Rem. The .270 Win's are all factory 1sts and sprinkled with pixie dust so they can handle that extra 5k psi.

You do realize most of the premium .280 Rem ammo's out there by Nosler, Federal and Hornady these days tend to have the same performance for the .280 Rem as the .270 Win?

In fact Nosler and Hornady list faster max loads for the .280 Rem in 140 gr than the .270 Win in 140 gr both of their reloading manuals. In fact the max load for the .280 Rem 140 gr using RL-19 is 134 fps faster than the fastest max load listed for the 140 gr .270 Win in Nosler 6.

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Originally Posted by czech1022
A friend is trying to persuade me to buy his Sako .280.

I know it's a fine rifle, ...

What's wrong with the .280?


Which Sako ? ( 85, 75, ...)

Nothing wrong with .280 , Enjoy!


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Originally Posted by whitetailhunter
The .280 is the cartridge I've always wanted but could never justify the purchase of due to the fact I have a .270 and a .30-06.


Yeah,well I have 2 270's and 4 30-06's and I got a 280 so I wouldn't spend anymore time worrying about justifying one or buying another 270 or 30-06 that I really didn't need either. Some guys put their extra dough into passbooks and I put mine into more guns. I don't need but got inexpensively so its not hard to let them go for more than I paid for them when I want to. Only downside I can see so far is the price of the ammo for guys that don't reload and they prolly don't care about that though. Magnum Man

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