Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire How did you fix/mitigate your lower back pain?

I have two degenerative discs, I had surgery scheduled but changed my mind at the last minute. my right leg was about 50% knumb down to the foot. pain all the time. in desperation, I got a back massage and found immediate relief. evenutally found a good chiropractor and he got me out of pain. I do stretches and exercises every am and pm. some morning, I can not hardly walk but after am workout, I am usually good to go. for me, it's a matter of keeping the disc off of the nerve. exercise is the key, I run every day and stretch often. good luck.

I second Dave's comments Re glucosamine/condroitin(sp). I actually had 5 compressed fractures of my upper vertabre back in 1970. Every now and then that part of my back would "flair-up". Since I''ve been on a daily dosage of the g/c, Ive noticed a great improvement. I'm also an avid golfer so I don't baby my back at all. If yopur problem is spine related , this across the counter medicine is the ticket--Bill

I have laid hands on a couple of people and prayed healing for them and gotten instant results. But it had nothing to do with ME. God used me, but it was always God's power and His choice, not mine.

God can see ahead to the end of our lives. It may be that a physical healing is a less desirable to Him according to His plan for our lives (although always more desirable to us).

As a parent, I have been able to see and understand more clearly God's relationship to us, His children. Just as my children would ask me for things that I would have loved to have given them so that they would be happy "in the moment," I was unwilling to do so because I knew that in the long run it wasn't the best choice for them. Because I love my children more than anything else, I wanted to make the best choices for them that I could. God loves us more than anything; His will for us is always perfect... whether it involves a physical healing or not.

In our moments of weakness, pain, and suffering we draw closer to God. In the end, that is perhaps more important to Him (and ultimately to us) than any alleviation of or change in our condition. When I think of my relationship with God, the word that comes to my mind first and foremost is "trust."

I'm not sure if that's what you would say, Scott... but I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents' worth...

And I would love to hear what you have to say on the subject. Want to begin a new thread???

B'sW

No, lets keep this one alive.

As I have stated before, I don�t believe in God�s healing, I KNOW God heals. My youngest daughter was born with Down�s. She had a hole in her heart and my wife was told to take her home and enjoy her because she was going to be gone in a couple of weeks. Bev called around for prayer for Wendy and prayed hard herself. Vancouver Children�s Hospital (Wendy was born in Quenelle, BC) had Bev bring her in for tests when she was nine months, three years and when she wad nine. The Down�s gene was there the first and second time but not the third. They told Bev that Wendy would be retarded. In fact, Wendy worked real hard for her A�s and B�s in college. I know God heals, I don�t just believe it.

I have prayed for my back, Bev has prayed for my back and I have had elders lay hands on me and pray for my back. God has not yet healed me. Why? I don�t know. Will He? I don�t know that either. I do have an idea why he hasn�t. God has chosen to use me on numerous times to pray for people to be healed. I am an elder in my church. I was an elder for a long, long time in my former church. I feel qualified to pray for people and to lay hands on them, to pray for them and that THEY WILL BE HEALED. Why not me? Perhaps because of the above. Perhaps because he uses me sometimes and I need to have compassion. Perhaps it is not time yet. Perhaps for a reason only He knows that is beyond my abilities to ponder. Whatever the reason, I am happy with His decision. I know whatever he has in mind is the best for me. I feel safe leaving it up to Him. I am happy

Disclaimer, this advice is NOT for a back injury such as herniated disk and such. I've never dealt with that.

What I have dealt with is "chronic" lower back pain. Mainly when I was in college due to sitting so much in class and then loading trucks for hours at night and then excercising completely wrong ( NEVER anchor your feelt under anything and do lots of situps. This works your hip flexors and rips up lower back. Actually does not much for abs ).

What I learned:
- Weak abdominal muscles and strong back muscles make for back pain. Hangin knee-raises and slow, controled crunches and reverse situps will tighten up your abs and keep your torso balanced.

- In my case when my lower back hurts I can tighten up the middle back muscles by doing bent over barbell rows with very strict form. This alleviates the pain.

- The stretching regimens already noted are mostly good and I use a few of them frequently.

- sleeping on your side with a pillow between your knees is a good suggestion. I do that also.

- if you are carrying a lot of extra weight, you are doing your back no good at all and a good excercise program will help overall.

Good luck!

Amen, Scott! God will choose the time and place, and it will be to HIS glory! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Sometimes we can be of more help to Him in our suffering and pain than we would be otherwise. Even Paul asked God repeatedly to remove the thorn in his side, and God did not... We can only trust that God had better reasons for letting it stay than Paul had for asking for it to be removed...

Your back situation is forcing you to confront a whole change of life and career. It is probably something that you never would have done on your own. God has something wonderful waiting for you (or through you, for someone else) down a path that you wouldn't have chosen to walk if you hadn't had this problem.

I'm glad to see that you still love and trust the Lord, and aren't angry at Him.

B'sW

Not angry at all. He gave me my wife, and that is a gift beyond description. He gives me long walks on beautiful days. He gave me sons and daughters. He gave me grandchildren. He gave me hot showers. He gave me sun ripened tomatoes. He gave me lavender. He allowed me to be an above average shot. He gave me friends on e-mail and the Campfire. And best of all, he gave me spell checkers so that you all won�t laugh when I try to type these messages.

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Our bodies have an amazing, Creator-endowed,ability to heal themselves.
Sometimes even the amazing creations we are, we need extra help overcoming trauma, or getting back to health from years of poor health-diet, habits, environmental hazards etc to a place where the body can restore itself.

Apostle James (in addition for his admonition to call for the elders of the church for healing) also admonished that any man who lacked wisdom should ask of God in faith nothing wavering...
Wisdom to recognize causative issues or conduct which threaten health and then work to correct them..From poor eating habits, lack of proper exercise, poor work habits, negative or poor thought patterns.. etc .

All of those and more effect our health and have a tendency to tear down our health over time..or at times: dramatically and fast.

Yes, thru the person and work of Christ healing is given those who believe as an integral part of the redemption we have by faith..

One cannot expect that God will heal if he persists in abusing his body...or secretly intends to use his health and refound vigor to fuel his own lusts...

And, tho the examples of healings we have in the Gospels & Acts were almost instant, sometimes healing is done in a series of steps...Steps of obedient faith.. and perhaps most importantly for those who call upon Christ as Lord, in allowing God to truly change us and conform us in all ways as He wills.
The image and likeness of Christ..complete people...complete church of believers...

Steps where we appropriate the wisdom of God and move forward to a different way of life where we CAN be healed..from the HIDDEN inner man all the way out and down to the toe-bones...:)

The believer also must remain aware that the thief, killer and destroyer( and liar) is ever at work to short circuit anything which will glorify the Creator of Life..so be attentive to that adversary also and learn to use God's weapons to combat every thing that may come against you which would hinder you or attack your faith.

When I have been injured or ill I have found that re-reading every account of the healings in the Gospels and in Acts helped me focus on where I wanted to be by faith( healed, feeling better, back to His work) rather than focusing on the pain or illness...
Strange as it may sound to those who have not encountered the power of God thru Christ yet, there have been times when I just was compelled to 'arise, take up my bed and walk'...even tho I was broken up or broken down and feeling hopeless...
Faith is the SUBSTANCE of things HOPED FOR; the EVIDENCE of things NOT seen..
We believe and walk forward by faith focusing on what we see afar off..God brings those matters and us together if we don't waver..and if our heart's desires are in tune with His..jim

Good post.

DF,
I've had a few back problems through the years (broke 2 different vertebrae on two seperate occasions, herniated and bulged discs, etc...), and have had back surgery. It really worked the problem I was having then and I recommend it if you are in tremendous acute pain.

As I've gotten older, I have developed some arthritis in my lower back and see a chiropractor. That works for me.

Another thing I've figured out is the better shape I stay in and the more active I am, the less I have back pain.

I'm sure phyiscal therapy or regularly scheduled massages would work well, also.

My son is a physician. One day, in the shower, something in my lower back went squish, and I was in agony. By the time he got to me, I was on a bed, on my back. He made me lie flat on my back, and put one of me feet against his chest, with my knee bent as far as it would naturally bend. He them pushed and released on my foot several times. Then, he switched feet, and did the other side. He said it hydrates the disk. I was still in a lot of pain, but it directly and immediately helped.

The other thing we use is a Homedic massager.... about $40. It has two hemispherical knobs that sort of pleasantly pound you. Having someone run that up and down your spine helps a lot. I think the vibration allows your vertebrae to jiggle into place or something. For me, it's not quite as good as a chiropractic "adjustment", but it's close.... really helps when I get a rib out its socket between my shoulder blades. Hurts like the dickens, and feels like back pain. Seems to help ease it back into place.

I've had lower back problems for forty years. A choirpractor helped for years, but he lost my business because he helped me too much!! After a really bad episode where I couldn't keep my back "in" he put me into his rehab facility where I did certain exercises and also worked on Nautilus machines with emphasis on strengthening my lower back and abs.I continued this program for over a year and was pain free for two years until I got lazy. I eventually discovered that if I did the exercises he gave me when it went out I could put it back in place. I havn't been to a chiorpractor in ten years. I still have problems, but I can get on the floor and do the exercises (stretches) and pop it back in.
The stretches have pretty much been described in the thread already But I'll add a little to it. I start on my side, head on a pillow, knees up at a 90 degree angle, extend my top arm out in front as far as I can and touch the floor. Then I bring that arm back to me doubling it as I come, and extend it elbow first as far back as I can. Roll over and repeat on the other side. Then I lay flat on my back with my hands laced behind my head and try to pull my shoulderblades together two or three times. Then pull my head up with my laced hands as far as I can.These exercises will sometimes cause a lot of popping in the upper back, which the choirpractor always worked on to get the lower back to relax.
Next, flat on my back, I bring my knees up, feet together on the floor, and let my knees out to each side as far as I can. I let gravity take over and get the knees as near horizontal as they will go. It's important to relax for 30 sec. or so in this position since your back will ''move" better if relaxed. Then I bring the knees back up together with feet together on the floor.
Keep both shoulders on the floor with arms out to the sides for better balance, and roll both knees as far to one side as possible, and then to the other side. Repeat this several times.
Then I lay flat on my back ,legs straight. Bring the left knee as far up to your chest as possible and grasp it with the right hand. Keeping both shoulderblades flat on the floor pull the knee as far as possible to the right and try to touch the floor with it. Pull it as far and as forcefully as possible, really put some oomph into trying to get it to the floor. Repeat with the other knee on the other side. THIS MIMICS THE MOVEMENT A CHIORPRACTOR USES TO REALIGN THE LOWER BACK.
If my surrounding muscles are relaxed enough my back will go back in. While on my back I bring my knees up again with my feet on the floor and tighten my abnominal and butt muscles at the same time and hold for several seconds. and repeat several times to strengthen these muscles.
These stretches havn't failed me yet. they may not work for every one, but they have helped a couple of my friends.
Also, three years ago I got off a plane in Helena, Montana To head into the mountains for a week of elk hunting. When I picked up my suitcase my back popped out, and when we got to the cabin, I was in a lot of pain. I laid down on the floor, did the exercises, popped it back in, and was pain free for the week!
Hope this can help some of you.

Ok here is my quick remedy.

When my lower back starts to hurt.

Do situps.

What?

Yep, about 10-20 a night before bed or just sometime during the day, once a day every day for a week.

What this does is strengthen your stomach muscles which will take away from the work your lower back must do to keep you upright.

Scott,

Your healing, AND YOU HAVE ALREADY BEEN HEALED,
has not "manifested" because you are saying with your
mouth that God hasn't healed you yet!

Until what you confess (say) matches what you believe
in your heart.....it will not manifest itself! Mark 11:23.

Make sure that you harbor no "unforgiveness" in your
heart.....as it will "delay" that manifestation! Mark 11:25-26.
Same concept in the Lord's prayer too.

Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, and the
evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1

Until you believe you have been healed, and confess with
your mouth to others you have been healed....BEFORE
IT MANIFESTS.....(Evidence of things not seen) it won't manifest at all! Healing and manifestation don't always
happen at the same time.

I know you "believe" already that you have been healed,
but the lack of manifestation has been/is your stumbling
block.....You just can't seem to say...."I'M HEALED" until
you see it manifest. This, my brother, is backwards!

That confession does not MATCH God's word! James tells
us that we receive not because we ask amiss! Faith without
works is dead......God has laid down the "works" in this
case....beleiving and saying to others BEFORE it happens, to
gain the manifestation.

Very, very good post, Jim. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> We are also told
there will be those who will attempt to make us deny our
healings. Or to make us out as liars. This healing
was not "instant' either? (John chapter 9)

Yeah right, tell all the people in this world with cancer, MS, diabetes, Parkinson's to pray. I am sure they never tried that.

A number of them probably never have...

B'sW

How many of the health and wealth prosperity teachers are dead or are going to die?? They die and suffer like everyone else does of cancer, heart disease, stroke....
The mortality rate is 100% for EVERYBODY.
If simple "naming and claiming" worked, none of those who support it would die or have any illness or for that matter wear glasses or go bald! hehe Think about it.
I hear Benny Hinn calling, hold on... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Ok I'm back. Benny says give him your life savings and God will bless you 10X over.
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Dogcatcher223...

Years ago, trying to understand what was in the Bible or what the better ministers empowered to send the Gospel forth had to say concerning the redemption of Jesus Christ, the Creator's Son, was like trying to get a warm feeling reading a love letter from some gal to HER boyfriend, neither of whom I knew.

Just didn't work..

Like reading someone else' mail so to speak.

So I understand your skepticism concerning the efficacy of prayer by a fervent and righteous person for anything..including healing.( righteous means that a person has been changed and given God's right-standing, not some result of any man's own efforts)

Since those days forty years back, when as a young man, strong, smart, capable and a know all ..:) I tried to deal with the congenital illness<and deaths> of two brothers, the debilitating effects of childhood diabetes on my first love and wife<now dead after suffering blindness, kidney failure and loss of her limbs>, raising two children unassisted,being shot, beat, abused and injured as soldier-policeman.
I also did a whole lot of stupid and selfish things contributing to my own problems.About like most men..:)

Well, I figgered that I needed HELP, as conventional wisdom of man, my own smarts and guts and strength and science wasn't cutting it..and NEITHER was mainstream kristianity and the bible thumpers and snake oil salesmen like Oral Roberts and more recently, the likes of Benny Hinn..;)

Figgered I needed to go to the well myself and learn firsthand what it was gonna take to survive and help in a world plagued by trouble, heartache, sickness, evil and death.

Well, I did and I found what it takes.But what I discovered was scary...and costly for the man I was then.

Not been an easy thing..DYING.
Not been an easy thing learning to LIVE properly..

But, with the help of a few brothers & sisters who KNOW Christ and the Holy Spirit Himself..here I am as living testimony that there IS LIFE after death.

Prayer works..but it ain't some sort of help line for consumer like you get with a new VCR.

YOU MUST ALLOW THE CREATOR, THRU HIS SON, JESUS CHRIST TO GET YOUR HEART AND MIND RIGHT( OR GET THE HELP OF THOSE WHO HAVE) or you will be like trying to use a pickup cell phone that has no minutes, no signal and no authorization chip.
To the casual observer, you are making and receiving calls but there is nothing happening..

Lots of charlatans selling stuff in the name of krist, but very few who are doing anything in the authority and in the power and with the direction of THE Christ and His Name.
He is Yahshua Messiah...Call upon Him and He will answer you..You may not like what you hear but He will make it easy for you..He has done the hard part..jim

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater on this.
Watch, listen take notes and if you are willing to be taught and receive, you will be amazed.
Gonna have to die tho.
What a relief you will find it to be when you can stop your futile struggling and move in the life and power of the living Creator of all life..:)
And yes, I know that reading what I just wrote by Him above will probably seem pretty wierd to you..but then, I am no longer of 'this world'..
May our Creator and His Son & our Savior draw you to Himself so you cannot resist..Jim

Jesus said, "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light." (Matthew 11:28-30) And He is right. It is a joy...yes, a JOY...and a privilege for me to live my life for the One who died for ME. There is nothing at all on this earth that can satisfy or put a happiness in my heart like the Lord can. Thanks for the personal testimony, Jim.

B'sW