|
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,516
Campfire Tracker
|
OP
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,516 |
Looking at the "standard" bullet offerings to try in addition to the Nosler 60-grain Partition. Which one of the following has been the best factory .223 ammo for deer in your experience?
Fusion 62 gr Winchester 64 gr Power Point Federal Power Shok 64 gr SP (listed as a medium game load on Federal's website)
Is there any factory .223 deer ammo I'm missing on my list besides the Barnes TSX?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 136
Campfire Member
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 136 |
Federal Premium makes the .223 with a 60gr. Nosler partition
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,516
Campfire Tracker
|
OP
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,516 |
You're right. I was looking to order one of the cup-and-core options that was also a proven performer in case the Federal Nosler Partition load didn't shoot well in the particular gun.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 975
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 975 |
My daughter toppled 2 mulies with my heavy barrel Savage in .223 shooting Winchester 64 grain ammo. 100% penetration each time shooting broadside through the chest organs. Great performance ammo! Sherwood
FIRE UP THE GRILL - is NOT catch and release!
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 23,077 Likes: 10
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 23,077 Likes: 10 |
Ramblin_Razorback: I have some extensive firsthand observations regarding a SUPERB 223 Remington factory offering for Deer/Antelope and on one Mt.Goat! This factory offering is the Remington 55 grain PSP (Pointed Soft Point) cartridge. I have seen this round kill NUMEROUS Mule Deer, Whitetailed Deer and Antelope literally in their tracks! This includes a 31" (very mature) Mule Deer Buck killed with one shot! It appears your interpretation/conception of lethality is premised solely upon bullet weight - it's not. Lethality is premised upon a well placed shot and the proper transfer of a proper bullets energy (explosive or shocking power) inside the vital heart/lungs area of said game! I have a friend here in SW Montana that for some reason has been killing Deer with his 204 Ruger and 40 grain bullets for several years now - again no secret just well placed bullets and a complete transfer of all the bullets energy in the vital area of the Deer. Don't overlook the 55 grain offerings in the factory 223 Remington ammo - they work very well indeed! Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,516
Campfire Tracker
|
OP
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,516 |
Varmint Guy - Thanks for the input. I wasn't making any judgment on bullet weight - I was just listing the loads marketed by major ammo companies as being intended for deer. As far as I know, Remington doesn't market any of their .223 ammo for deer, but it is good to know that the Rem 55 gr PSP works in that application. I know others on the Campfire have remarked how their 55 grain handloaded Hornady .223 rounds have performed well on deer-sized game, so I don't doubt that some 55-grain bullets work for the task.
How does the 55-grain PSP hold up through shoulders, or is it a strictly through the ribs proposition?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,332
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,332 |
Don't forget about the Sierra 63 gr SP. It's a great deer bullet.
"If you could kick the person in the pants responsible for most of your trouble, you wouldn't sit for a month." -Theodore Roosevelt
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,516
Campfire Tracker
|
OP
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 4,516 |
Patrick - Does anyone load the Sierra in factory ammo?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 477
Campfire Member
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 477 |
In hand loaded ammo a Barnes tsx in any weight is a very good option,twist will determine the grain of the bullet.
Last edited by iblong; 10/21/11.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 205
Campfire Member
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 205 |
Fed 55TSX is the best. the 60NP ain't bad though
NRA Endowment member, BAA Lifer, USPSA Life member, SCSA Life member, ICORE
To teach those that don't know, To remind those that do Know, To correct those that think they know. -Helio Gracie
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,332
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,332 |
Patrick - Does anyone load the Sierra in factory ammo? Not that I know of.
"If you could kick the person in the pants responsible for most of your trouble, you wouldn't sit for a month." -Theodore Roosevelt
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 782
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 782 |
Looking at the "standard" bullet offerings to try in addition to the Nosler 60-grain Partition. Which one of the following has been the best factory .223 ammo for deer in your experience?
Fusion 62 gr Winchester 64 gr Power Point Federal Power Shok 64 gr SP (listed as a medium game load on Federal's website)
Is there any factory .223 deer ammo I'm missing on my list besides the Barnes TSX? Another vote for 64 gr PP. Fantastic bullet!
"I am at heart a meat hunter." John Barsness, The Life of the Hunt
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 7,191
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 7,191 |
Another good thread that needs a look.....223 in proper weight boooooolits seems a good choice for anyone hunting medium sized deer . Many here rave about the .223 AI as well.
Kindness invites abuse du ma nhieu
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,965
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,965 |
Don't forget to check your State's hunting regulations since there may be a requirement of ft/lbs of muzzle energy or a minimum caliber for big game hunting.
It's it legal to use the 223 Remington, Federal ammo sells a 223 loaded with a 60 grain Nosler Partition bullet. That what I would use.
Last edited by idahoguy101; 09/02/12.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 596
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 596 |
The 55gr Barnes TSX works great on deer. I handload them but Federal, Corbon and Barnes offer them in factory loads.
Walk softly and carry a big bore!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 8,514
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 8,514 |
I just bought a few boxes of the 53 tsx to use in my cz 527 this year.I wanted the 55 ,but it was all cabelas had. the box says that it needs a 1-12 twist to stabilize.does the 55 need a faster twist?
********************** [the member formerly known as fluffy}
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 96,121 Likes: 1
Campfire Oracle
|
Campfire Oracle
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 96,121 Likes: 1 |
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 565
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 565 |
I couldn't get satisfactory accuracy from Federal's 60-gr NP load in any of my .223s. On the other hand, Federal's 62-gr Fusion load has delivered less than 1" groups in all my rifles. Two of them will do much better than that. I've never experienced anything less than complete pass throughs -- six deer and counting. It's not a flashy, expensive load, but works well.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 96,121 Likes: 1
Campfire Oracle
|
Campfire Oracle
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 96,121 Likes: 1 |
Agreed, the 55gr TTSX is 1-9"
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
|
|
|
|
554 members (1minute, 1234, 219 Wasp, 222Sako, 06hunter59, 163bc, 64 invisible),
2,514
guests, and
1,200
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,193,788
Posts18,515,957
Members74,017
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|