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Unfortunately, he was self-contradictory and obviously did not understand the implications of some of the questions. Krauthammer was obviously put off by his lack of understanding.

I had hoped he would be a better candidate.

He is back-tracking a lot and often appears to be confused. I like Herman Cain but he will get ripped for that in the long run.

He's a lightweight.

Smug, arrogant and pompous will only get a guy so far. I think we're seeing the natural end result of that dynamic.

It's a shame. Looks like it will be Romney and I am not at all convinced he is the man for the job. Pretty much business and normal. And I do so want to vote FOR someone once in my lifetime.

he is not good at all at dealing with the media....doesn't seem to understand the question well before he answers, and doesn't realize the implications of his answers until too late, then you get all the backing and filling.

which is too bad because I wish he could be our anti-Obama.

Difficult development for Cain and not being handled well right now - would like to see a snappier and more definitive personna in these situations. Maybe, as someone claims, he will turn out to be a "lightweight", but do not see it that way yet. His political approach is unconventional and that has thrown some folks off - especially the "smart pundits" - but he has some good stuff going and there is a reason why so many folks are drawn to him. I am not at all ready to accept a Romney inevitability. Might have have some suprises coming in the next 12 months - I think maybe so.

If he can get clear of this issue he has his place as second seat with Romney. If not it will be Romney with someone from the house.

I didn't see that particular interview, but self-contradiction is his forte. He doesn't stand a chance in the general. If he's nominated, we're screwed.

Ron Paul is still holding strong, however, so there's still hope we can deny Romney the nomination.

I sure hope Romney doesn't get the nomination because I can't stomach voting for a left-winger, even if he has an R beside his name. If it is Romney vs. Obama, I may have to "waste" my vote on a 3rd party candidate. I'm sure the libertarians will be running someone.

To some extent, Romney gets a bum rap for liberal tendencies... not totally, but to some extent.

If you're governor of Massachusetts, with a far left legislature, you don't get to choose between what is and what you want. You get to choose between what is and something else that is. And those choices are defined for you by a group that doesn't see the world through conservative eyes.

Yeah, I wish he had a record that I like more. And he has voluntarily done some things I don't like. It's still partly a bum rap.

But he is also an extremely competent, data driven senior executive. That's something we haven't seen for a while.

With his business consulting experience, his first reflex is likely to be analyzing the situation for misapplied or nonproductive resources. One could hope this would result in a large number of federal employees being switched from producing regulations in the public sector to creating wealth in the private sector.

I don't care about a competent executive if he's not going to do the right things.
He's a focus group conservative, IMHO, and wants to be president too badly.

Nobody knows, but I suspect that the conservative base will like him better in office than on the campaign trail. With a conservative Congress at his back, we might get some surprising results.

I also think there is a deeper divide in this country than liberal vs. conservative. That is the data driven vs. wishful thinking divide. I tend to be conservative because I think the liberals are more in the wishful thinking/don't understand how things really work camp.

Data driven is a very good characteristic. If he's elected, I think we'll like him.



Well, there is that.

There is a theory that anyone willing to do what is needed to become President is morally unacceptable for the office.

I hope you are correct, pal, but I don't see anything in his past that helps me believe it. He is my ABO candidate.

Watched Cain where on Fox?

I watched Cain with Greta last night. And posted transcript highlights here on Campfire.
To me, Cain was up-front and as clear, candid, and direct as anyone could be about something that happen over a decade ago.
Something that was handled independently by his staff as he could not be involved in his own investigation.
He told Greta what he remembered from back then and what had come back to him in the last few hours since being asked about it.

I watched Cain on Special Report today for the last few minutes.

I watched Cain with O�Reilly tonight and later heard Bill and Krauthammer agree that Cain did very well for a non-politician.
I heard Krauthammer say he couldn�t remember himself what he did yesterday or even what county he was in 15 years ago.

People are eating up the non-politician part�last three days, the Cain money has been pouring in.

Which is to say he doesn't think like a politician. I find that refreshing. I don't know how that would play to the masses against Obama though. I would like to think it would play well but that may be expecting too much. Pity.

Dealing with the media is one important aspect of being president. It goes with the territory, and if one can't do it, then the job will suffer.

Good summary as usual from Denton. The other 2 cents I can toss in is my wife's experience in the regulation side of the financial world both in Boston and on the federal side and Romney's firm and his employees in Boston was regarded as the most ethical and well run in the industry.

Is Romney ideal? No, I disagree with some of his points. Is Cain ideal? No, I think he has failed to expouse a useful foreign policy. Is Obama ideal? No, I disagree with damn near everything that comes out of his mouth. The answer of who to vote for is very clear at one level - anyone but Obama. The details of that still need to be worked out.

It's all just entertainment for the masses. The truth of the matter is, whoever wins the Repubs vs. the Demos games has as much to do with the true direction this country goes in as does who wins the world series or the stanley cup. The truth is, there is a political/financial class in this country and they're bleeding the working class dry. The demos are just as war-mongering and just as much into big business as the repubs, and the repubs are just as much tax and spend and throw just as much socialistic pap to the masses as the demos.

They're just a couple of criminal gangs squabbling over the nation's coffers. They pretend to have a particular stance on hot-button social issues (ie gun control, abortion)in order to rally their supporters, but even that is nuanced according to regional demographics of their constituencies.

They control government and the media and they keep us entertained/arguing amongst ourselves (like sports fans) while they continue to bleed this nation dry.

Exactly.. And you can bet your sweet bippy he'll NOT work to overturn Obamacare.. He'll just 'tweak' it...

I thought Cain did ok last night.. A bit off on some answers but then compare that to the Liar In Chief and Cain looks like a superstar...

The media, the left and the establishment GOP in DC wants Romney - because he won't rock the establishment boat, he won't be conservative and he's the closest thing to the azzhole we have in the WH now...

I DO NOT WANT ROMNEY!! Period..