Unfortunately, he was self-contradictory and obviously did not understand the implications of some of the questions. Krauthammer was obviously put off by his lack of understanding.

I had hoped he would be a better candidate.

He is back-tracking a lot and often appears to be confused. I like Herman Cain but he will get ripped for that in the long run.

He's a lightweight.

Smug, arrogant and pompous will only get a guy so far. I think we're seeing the natural end result of that dynamic.

It's a shame. Looks like it will be Romney and I am not at all convinced he is the man for the job. Pretty much business and normal. And I do so want to vote FOR someone once in my lifetime.

he is not good at all at dealing with the media....doesn't seem to understand the question well before he answers, and doesn't realize the implications of his answers until too late, then you get all the backing and filling.

which is too bad because I wish he could be our anti-Obama.

Difficult development for Cain and not being handled well right now - would like to see a snappier and more definitive personna in these situations. Maybe, as someone claims, he will turn out to be a "lightweight", but do not see it that way yet. His political approach is unconventional and that has thrown some folks off - especially the "smart pundits" - but he has some good stuff going and there is a reason why so many folks are drawn to him. I am not at all ready to accept a Romney inevitability. Might have have some suprises coming in the next 12 months - I think maybe so.

If he can get clear of this issue he has his place as second seat with Romney. If not it will be Romney with someone from the house.

I didn't see that particular interview, but self-contradiction is his forte. He doesn't stand a chance in the general. If he's nominated, we're screwed.

Ron Paul is still holding strong, however, so there's still hope we can deny Romney the nomination.

I sure hope Romney doesn't get the nomination because I can't stomach voting for a left-winger, even if he has an R beside his name. If it is Romney vs. Obama, I may have to "waste" my vote on a 3rd party candidate. I'm sure the libertarians will be running someone.

To some extent, Romney gets a bum rap for liberal tendencies... not totally, but to some extent.

If you're governor of Massachusetts, with a far left legislature, you don't get to choose between what is and what you want. You get to choose between what is and something else that is. And those choices are defined for you by a group that doesn't see the world through conservative eyes.

Yeah, I wish he had a record that I like more. And he has voluntarily done some things I don't like. It's still partly a bum rap.

But he is also an extremely competent, data driven senior executive. That's something we haven't seen for a while.

With his business consulting experience, his first reflex is likely to be analyzing the situation for misapplied or nonproductive resources. One could hope this would result in a large number of federal employees being switched from producing regulations in the public sector to creating wealth in the private sector.

I don't care about a competent executive if he's not going to do the right things.
He's a focus group conservative, IMHO, and wants to be president too badly.

Nobody knows, but I suspect that the conservative base will like him better in office than on the campaign trail. With a conservative Congress at his back, we might get some surprising results.

I also think there is a deeper divide in this country than liberal vs. conservative. That is the data driven vs. wishful thinking divide. I tend to be conservative because I think the liberals are more in the wishful thinking/don't understand how things really work camp.

Data driven is a very good characteristic. If he's elected, I think we'll like him.



Well, there is that.

There is a theory that anyone willing to do what is needed to become President is morally unacceptable for the office.

I hope you are correct, pal, but I don't see anything in his past that helps me believe it. He is my ABO candidate.

Watched Cain where on Fox?

I watched Cain with Greta last night. And posted transcript highlights here on Campfire.
To me, Cain was up-front and as clear, candid, and direct as anyone could be about something that happen over a decade ago.
Something that was handled independently by his staff as he could not be involved in his own investigation.
He told Greta what he remembered from back then and what had come back to him in the last few hours since being asked about it.

I watched Cain on Special Report today for the last few minutes.

I watched Cain with O�Reilly tonight and later heard Bill and Krauthammer agree that Cain did very well for a non-politician.
I heard Krauthammer say he couldn�t remember himself what he did yesterday or even what county he was in 15 years ago.

People are eating up the non-politician part�last three days, the Cain money has been pouring in.

Which is to say he doesn't think like a politician. I find that refreshing. I don't know how that would play to the masses against Obama though. I would like to think it would play well but that may be expecting too much. Pity.

Dealing with the media is one important aspect of being president. It goes with the territory, and if one can't do it, then the job will suffer.

LOL ROMNEYCARE

Good summary as usual from Denton. The other 2 cents I can toss in is my wife's experience in the regulation side of the financial world both in Boston and on the federal side and Romney's firm and his employees in Boston was regarded as the most ethical and well run in the industry.

Is Romney ideal? No, I disagree with some of his points. Is Cain ideal? No, I think he has failed to expouse a useful foreign policy. Is Obama ideal? No, I disagree with damn near everything that comes out of his mouth. The answer of who to vote for is very clear at one level - anyone but Obama. The details of that still need to be worked out.

It's all just entertainment for the masses. The truth of the matter is, whoever wins the Repubs vs. the Demos games has as much to do with the true direction this country goes in as does who wins the world series or the stanley cup. The truth is, there is a political/financial class in this country and they're bleeding the working class dry. The demos are just as war-mongering and just as much into big business as the repubs, and the repubs are just as much tax and spend and throw just as much socialistic pap to the masses as the demos.

They're just a couple of criminal gangs squabbling over the nation's coffers. They pretend to have a particular stance on hot-button social issues (ie gun control, abortion)in order to rally their supporters, but even that is nuanced according to regional demographics of their constituencies.

They control government and the media and they keep us entertained/arguing amongst ourselves (like sports fans) while they continue to bleed this nation dry.

Exactly.. And you can bet your sweet bippy he'll NOT work to overturn Obamacare.. He'll just 'tweak' it...

I thought Cain did ok last night.. A bit off on some answers but then compare that to the Liar In Chief and Cain looks like a superstar...

The media, the left and the establishment GOP in DC wants Romney - because he won't rock the establishment boat, he won't be conservative and he's the closest thing to the azzhole we have in the WH now...

I DO NOT WANT ROMNEY!! Period..

Exactly why he must be stopped.

You and me both brother, you and me both.

RomneyCare is a fair criticism of Romney. He's going to have problems with that, as he should. And I think he handled his recent answers about that poorly. A better answer would have been, "Part of the genius of the United States is that we can try experiments in the various states, and leverage the best results throughout the country. We did what we did with the best of intentions, and it did not work out as expected. We should put RomneyCare on the list of things we are definitely not going to do nationally."

Some of you sound like the liberal media. Lots of monday morning quarterbacks. The guy has no experience as a politician, and standing in front of 20 cameras and 40 reporters shooting at you makes it hard to gather your thoughts. Obama can't gather his thoughts in front of a group of school kids.

+1. Yup. This is why he's likely to get it!

There are things I don't like about Romney, but I strongly disagree with this statement.

Obama's math lobes never seem to have developed. He seems incapable of any kind of critical thought that involves numbers. And he has no moral guide except getting and keeping power.

Romney is the opposite. He is extremely rational. We may disagree on some points, but I am very confident that he will act in what he sees as the best interests of the country.

You also have to realize that Presidents are put in place by coalitions of special interest groups. Once elected, the groups are more powerful than the President.

The political parties are two of those interest groups, but their power has eroded substantially as they have been disintermediated by the internet. A single popular cause, such as the Arizona illegal alien suits, will directly draw large amounts of cash from all over the country.

I don't think so. There are far to many negatives, like the entire bull, I mean bill, to tweak and Romney knows that. I believe he would work to annul the bill and then turn the duty of healthcare issues back to the states where they belong. That's what he's said when I've listened to him and it would be far to major of an issue to reneg on.

I hope you are sending these suggestions to Romney, Denton. He could use some help. I'm not nearly as afraid of him as some on this site and believe the vehemence of many comes more from group-think than self-think. To lump him in with Obama reminds me of those that claimed there would be no difference between Obama and McCain in 2008. While McCain was far from ideal, Obama has been a disaster that will be with us for a long time to come.

An astute observation and very true. It is because he is a lawyer, as are many or most politicians these days. This is not a knock on the legal profession, but it is a field that requires a high level of verbal ability and reasoning skills, and almost nothing quantitative or scientific. It is my understanding that all math has been eliminated from the LSAT and law school curricula. Of course there are always exceptions. Some years ago I heard that a judge in one of the southern districts (Steve NO's?) had a degree in math and paid a lot of attention to quantitative evidence.

Consider that economic issues are perhaps the biggest challenge faced these days, and economics is almost entirely a quantitative field, an understanding of which requires much more than the ups and downs of percentages and graphs.

And don't get me going on "creating jobs..."

Paul

Well, I can make the suggestions....



Indeed. But we will get over him. I wonder if we will get over the people who put him there.

Ideal? Hell, he's not even competent.







(I do understand your statement! )

I'll respectfully suggest that you place too much faith in politicians.

Politicians are like strippers in that they are all the same - they just look different.

Well, I'd have to bow to your expertise on strippers.

I really don't think all politicians are alike. For instance, I'm pretty good friends with the recently retired chairwoman of the Utah Republican Party. She's about as decent, honest, and well-motivated as anyone you'll meet. I can think of at least one politician I know who isn't that way.

My experience is that politics is like a lot of other professions, some good apples, some rotten ones. Zerobama has certainly been at the wrong end of that spectrum.

It got Hussein to the White House.

Of course, he was the left and MSM's "chosen one".

Amen.

Yep.

And, each faction has their own jester, to pander to the kooks in the crowd who don't like the standard plays. I.e., Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich. They play the same role within each party/faction, and keep the show rolling right along.

Instead he says that it was a good idea that worked for Mass., but just isn't right for the rest of the country? That is a BS, I will say anything to get elected answer if I have ever heard one.

Seems like the Republicans continue to run out these weak, middle of the road candidates (Dole, McCain, etc. and now Romney) on the theory that they will appeal to the independents, thus bringing the presidency back to the repubs. They never cease to be surprised when this strategy fails time and time again. you would think they would learn, but they never do.

Denton, stop making sense will you? Been reading all of your posts on this thread and they pose a well-reasoned, facts based, no emotion analysis of the situation. thanks!

Seems to me this country is heading down the road to disaster.
Question is, do we want to go a bit slower? That is all electing a McCain, Perry, or Romney will accomplish at this point.

Sorry to sound all "doom and gloom" and I don't want to be taken for an RP supporter, that is for certain! But I just don't see things really turning around in the US.

All I want is the eloquence of Reagan, the limited government view of Jefferson, the historical understanding of Gingrich, the 2A zeal of Gura....

Somehow I can't seem to get all that in one person. I don't know why that is.



The problem is that neither the President nor Congress runs the country. The direction we are going is a reflection of what we collectively are. I agree that we need a change of direction. But that will come from changing the people.

I think that the Tea Party has given voice to some very constructive points of view: individual responsibility, less government, more freedom. To the extent those points of view prevail in the marketplace of ideas, dependency, big government and a multitude of laws are pushed aside.

If you run on that platform you get my vote!

"he is not good at all at dealing with the media....doesn't seem to understand the question well before he answers, and doesn't realize the implications of his answers until too late, then you get all the backing and filling. which is too bad because I wish he could be our anti-Obama."


Not sure Cain isn't just that. And no consevative can hope to succeed when "dealing with (a hostile liberal) media..."

I'm disappointed that so many of us claim to want political candidates who are not established 'insiders' of our grimy polictical crowd but then object to a proven capabile man with common sense who speaks without guile so he doesn't think or sound like an establishment politician. WTF? Can we really expect to see proper change if we stick with the same crowd of smooth talking insider fakes with nice hair?

Cain would recuit competitent advisors and he is plenty smart enough to pick his way out of the thickets. All contrary to our current glibe-tongued dufus in chief.

Yeah, me too!

So, Denton, do you need a minister of hunting and fishing in your cabinet?
I'd be happy to volunteer my services.

Respectfully, bull puckey! Anyone with enough knowledge to balance a checkbook and plan a basic family budget has the tools necessary to understand all they need to know about economics AND to do a much better job at allowing an economy to work than all those idiotic Ivey League educated economists put together.

Economics is not an science. It is the interaction of humans via a monetary medium. As such, calculations and equations of "if this, then that" are worthless in the long run and if relied upon to heavily, even harmful. There is no way to manage economics other than to have a sound medium of exchange (sound money) and to allow human interactions to develop naturally utilizing that medium.

I think it is clear that the story must have started in the Perry camp.

Do you strive to become more stupid as each day wears on?

As I told your dumb ass two days ago,this incident won't hurt Cain and may even give him a boost due to the timeliness and nature of the leak.

Today's polls reflect such as Cain has now widened his lead over Romney. But,you carry on, stupid!

LyinAssWalt is a Demoncrap.

Be Nice to see Walt actually contribute something to this forum but that doesn't seem to be in the cards.

[bleep] always has a smell to it you can't miss.

Well, that rules out Zerobama. No math lobes.

I can't figure out why conservatives can't field a candidate that knows how to campaign. Obama had an awful lot of help from the media, but he was disciplined, stayed on message, and could read the words written for him in a convincing manner. Cain and Perry may be good men and true conservatives (most of the time) but they are intellectually undisciplined and too lazy to develop the skills it takes to get elected. That tape of Perry mugging it up for his audience is every bit as embarrassing as Cains inability to answer a simple, direct question

At least Romney has put in the personal effort and work necessary to run a credible campaign. He will be a far better President than Obama.

I did use a broad brush. There are some "public servants that are better than others. I think by the time someone runs for POTUS, altruism has been lost. I don't think they get the power and wealth they have through honesty and morality.

That said, ABO.

Note to self - invent time machine, historical cloning and DNA splicing machine after dinner and before doing laundry tonight.

If so, please add in a dash of TR for the foreign policy and conservation aspects to the above ideal candidate.

Cool! That will give you plenty of time afterwards to load some 257 Bob ammo or work on some airplane project, Allen.

I think Cain has a real shot, the moderates took a swing with obama and he didn't knock it out of the park like the media said he would. infact he hurt us, and bad. they see that and know enough that we need to go back to whats worked before, or roots and take a more conservative approach. who cares how charasmatic a speaker is, its WHO the man is and what his track record is that gives the best indication of what kind of leader he will be. drudging up the sexual harassment thing helped cain if anything, because if thats the best the opposition can do, its gonna take a hell of a lot more than that to dissuade the moderates.

Hmm, trying to understand your perspective, Joe. The natural process you describe might work if politicians would leave the quantitative stuff alone, but that can't or don't. In reality they do make some very serious policy decisions based on assumptions they make about quantitative issues, and particularly cause and effect. Some of the stuff is quite simple, like understanding that correlation isn't necessarily cause and effect, and what "average" means and how significant differences are.

Paul

The Bob's all set. On to 7-08 TSX for tonight and I'll be set through the pig hunt unless I AI the Bob before then.

7-08 is something I have never played with. One of these days...

Lack of critical inquiry and thought led to the polar bears being listed as endangered. Poor understanding of how the world really works is a serious impediment to getting good policy.

That goes back to the distinction that I made earlier: The big divide is not conservative vs. liberal. It is people who deal with the universe rationally vs. those who don't. A large part of getting elected is generating causes that sway the irrationals.



I think there is a market for it.

they had CNN on where I ate lunch, and you would think the freaking Russians had emptied the damn silos. Hysterical news wenches going totally batshit over this twenty year old nothing....pictures of Cain walking around as if he were a perp.

You know, ol' Herman ought to just call bullshit on the story, say he's not going to say any more about it and let the media go blow themselves. People who are impressed with this story were never thinking about voting for Cain, or any other conservative, so who cares what they think? He only enables the media to keep this front and center by continuing to respond.

Won't work Steve; "Tell a lie often enough, loud enough, and long enough, and people will believe you."

http://s297.photobucket.com/albums/...p;current=Captain_Kirk_For_President.mp4

These Campfire political threads really keep me bemused and befuddled � so many omniscients posting so many contradictory finalities that range both ways from the unforgivable sin of a Republican tying his shoes with granny knots.

(All terribly ominous and significant, of course.)

Really shows me just how stupid I am.

I was thinking the same thing just using smaller words.

Would you mind "clarifying" the rest of us?I don't recall reading anything about it.

I really and truly despise the MSM.
Biggest bunch of hypocrites I have ever seen, bar none.

Really? I think Cain is finished! The lid is about to blow on the sexual harassment issue and when the Media starts looking at the campaign funding issue the dude may go to jail! (I know thats over the top)

I watched FOX last knight and even FOX hammered Cain.

Truth be told Mitt will be the nominee plain and simple.

But you think you are smart enough to know something.

I have said it before and will say it again. At this point in 2007, Rudy Giuliani had a commanding lead in the Republican primary. Does anyone remember how that worked out?

It certainly looks like it will be Romney, but this thing is far from over. The first delegate has not cast a vote yet.

heck, the first primary voter hasn't even cast a vote yet.

It certainly looks like it will be Romney, but this thing is far from over.
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True dat. A mere 5 days ago,it looked like everyone had Cain as the candidate.

If Romney gets the nomination I will vote for him then promptly throw up. I may spend the rest of the day crying.

Sure hope this doesn't end up the same way as with McLame in 2008.
If so, I may emigrate to Mars.

Better buy a place on Mars now. There could be a land rush soon.

Not me; knowing obama is unemployed, will be cause for celebration.

I will say it again, Cain is finished! By Friday his campaign will be in ruin. Might not take that long the way things are moving today! Good Night Herman.

Bear:


Will you be satisfied if Obama light wins? The best part about Mitt is he provides all of the ammo need to for the Pres to shred him in the general. The dude changes direction on any/all topics. Its like he asks every audience ... "Where do you want me to stand?"

You should spend your energies focusing on the final days of the moron you morons put in office. Your fear manisfesting itself with silly,sophomoric posts is transparently amusing but you really do come across as a complete idiot without a clue.

MARSHALLTOWN, Iowa � While Herman Cain struggled for a second day in Washington to push back against sexual harassment allegations, the high political drama almost went unmentioned Tuesday in one of the most important courts of public opinion � Iowa.
On the campaign trail, on local conservative talk radio and in conversations among activists, Republicans here have so far greeted the story with a shrug.
[�]
The allegations against Cain aren�t resonating in Iowa because Republicans here are veterans of campaign politics and will reserve judgment until the story is more complete, said Bob Vander Plaats, the social conservative leader and 2010 gubernatorial candidate.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/67410_Page2.html#ixzz1cawBEarI

LOL! Classic!

Your support for the list of complete idiots running for Pres on the GOP side is the real sign of a fool and his thoughts. Lets see... Palin (Here is a winner) Bachmann (Palin light), Perrry ( the best debater of all). Cain (999 and no clue) and your stuck with a candidate you really hate (Mitt)! Maybe you can work on Christie some more! Hell Christie was smart enough to stay out of this Sh&t Storm and hope for smoother sailing in 2016. 2012 is going to be a wash guys. If Obama wins you are going to be really pissed off, if Mitt wins you're going to be really pissed off. I call that a Win!

When Obama is out,the entire country wins, save for freeloaders such as yourself,of course. The thought of having to work for a living terrifies you,doesn't it?

On that subject,post a pic of you working your trade in Alaska,if one exists. I think it will be easy to expose you for the pathological liar and fraud you really are.

Damned right. Been saying the same myself.

Can you imagine what might happen if RP became viable enough to require any of the others to spend some money addressing his failings rather than letting RP do it all by himself,for free?

Cain's a numbskull banker shill. Romney's a first class RINO. Perry's another George Dubya. Gingrich is Mr. Global Warming. Only Ron Paul is right on all the issues, and with him there's no surprises. He's been fighting for the same issues, like a voice in the wilderness, since the 1970s, i.e., the very issues that all the phonies have suddenly started running on only of late, because only recently, since the course of events have proved that Ron Paul was right all along, they're popular.

Your right! Just send me that cheese!

You are such a dip stick! 50% of the guys on the forum know the GOP is screwed with the clowns you have to run with in 2012. Just today there has been many posts that are saying how low the GOP has sunk or how all the candidates are so bad. I think that any of the good ones have bowed out because the Right Wing of the party which really represents maybe 10-12% of the party have turned a deaf ear to any sensible candidate. The GOP has some good choices out there but guys like you are demanding that each new flavor of the day be more crazy than the other and you are getting what you have asked for.


Good luck with that. Most of the country and many here on the campfire reside some where closer to the middle than the vocal few like yourself. Its like you guys insist that if you piss in a wind storm that you will not get anything on yourself. As most of us can see your all wet and you smell like PEE!

Let's see the pics,fraud.

First you beg for Hugo Chavez's oil, now begging for cheese. Pathetic

I agree with you. I think RP is the only one with any morals. You know where he stands and that scares the hell out of the Right Wing and the establishment. Cant control this guy!

I don't think he can with the primary but I still like him!

I musta missed that as I don't recall any of them other than RP calling the end or even audit of the Fed; at least they sure don't bring that up. Cain even said he would expand the military. Don't any but RP call out for WS and Corps to step and come clean. These are issues that are outside and out of bounds for both parties. They are owned.

Then you musta missed a lot�

A PROSPERITY PLAN: REFORMING THE FEDERAL RESERVE
I will also include in jobs and prosperity legislation provisions to reform the Federal Reserve.
They will include a full-scale audit of Federal Reserve activities as well as a narrowing of the Fed's statutory mandate.
The amount of money Chairman Bernanke has allocated in secrecy is incompatible with a free society.
Every decision document and meeting record for 2008 to 2010 should be made public and audited.
We the people deserve to know how our money is spent.

The Fed's monetary policy discretion should be limited to following a price rule guiding the conduct of monetary policy.
The Fed should monitor the signals provided by sensitive commodity prices with the goal of maintaining stable prices, thereby contributing to a stable dollar without inflation.

The operations of the Federal Reserve have an extraordinary impact over our everyday lives.
The Fed influences how much money is circulating in the economy, the value of the dollar, and what we pay to borrow from banks in the form of interest rates.
Since the enactment of legislation in 1978 known as the Humphrey-Hawkins Act, the Fed has had a dual mandate: maximum employment and stable prices.
These two goals are incompatible.
Newt Gingrich

Too many are willing to vote for douchebag-light just to get rid of douchebag. They'd rather vote for someone they think will be the winner (even if it is because he has powerful financial backing from some special interest group), rather than vote for a man w/ good intentions who can help us out of this.

In terms of legislative achievement Gingrich is light-years ahead of Ron Paul.
The 21st Century Contract with America in substance and detail is light-years ahead of Ron Paul.

Finally, the bureaucratic rules and procedures that are commonplace in the federal government have no place in the twenty-first century. This legislation must dramatically overhaul the entire structure of the federal civil service, and make it clear that Americans will only tolerate a government that aggressively targets and eliminates waste and fraud, and incorporates private-sector best practices. Strong America Now, an organization dedicated to bringing modern management to government at every level, estimates that we can save $500 billion a year in spending through proven waste-cutting and value-enhancing techniques from the private sector, such as Lean Six Sigma.

The Defense Department has already used Lean Six Sigma to save more than $22 billion, increasing productivity 1,000 percent in some facilities.

IBM's Business of Government consultancy makes a more conservative estimate, suggesting that the federal government could save $100 billion annually by implementing commercial best practices. Using fraud detection techniques similar to those employed by credit card companies, we could save between $70 and $120 billion a year in Medicaid and Medicare fraud, according to the Center for Health Transformation.
Newt Gingrich

Then why Did Paul Ryun say he believed Romney would over-turn Obamacare. I think Ryun has a better take on Romney on this issue than anyone here.

The same Paul Ryan who voted for TARP against the expressed will of the overwhelming majority of his constituents?

It will be interesting to see if Cain can continue to maintain his lead in the polls.

Whether he actually did anything wrong in the 90's appears to be irrelevant now, the bigger story is how he keeps changing his.

If someone is a hard core Cain supporter it won't change anything, but just like Perry - Cain has now faced the scrutiny of front runner.

Perhaps Romney's plan all along was to always be the guy in second right up to the end so the media and party backstabbing will clear out the contenders.

I see that as well.

I'm afraid we'll keep going down this path until we hit a Greece situation where no matter who is in charge, he(or she) will have limited options and have to make some hard decisions that nobody wants. Then everyone will turn against him and those goofy hippie protestors that we kind of look at in strange bemusement now will be real citizens in the street demanding a continuation of services and support that our government can no longer provide.

If you can see that as a reality, then I would hope someone would consider Ron Paul because severe cuts in the government we can negotiate and rationalize are much better when there is time to act on it rather than when they have to happen and its too late.

Either way, I firmly believe they are coming, and any candidate that is still proposing a format of big government (based on spending, taxes or a combination of both) may appeal to a large segment but doesn't really have the long term interest of the country in mind.


We already face another rating downgrade when the cuts from the committee that are mandated kick in because our partisan government refuses to find common ground on what needs to happen.

While I certainly believe there is a rational argument as to whether Ron Paul could actually get the significant reduction in size and scope of government he seeks, I don't think there is any argument that doing so puts America on much, much firmer financial ground and in turn gives it the ability to spend money on what are its biggest priorities.

For example, some people believe that Ron Paul's foreign policy will weaken our military and world dominance, however how can we continue to have a military as strong as we do now when both parties and every leading candidate agrees that significant cuts in military spending have to happen? You don't hear Ron Paul talking about not spending to build ships, tanks, weapons, VA hospitals, etc - you hear him talking about minimizing our "empire" overseas (I'm sure he has had examples of wasteful military spending but I'm talking in generalities here).

Whether a republican or democrat gets elected they are going to cut the military budget. Its already being cut to the tune of $400 billion over a period of time in the near future. Its being floated that another $400 billion is realistic.

It's because we have to do it and someone is going to have to make some hard decisions about what is valuable and what isn't.

I'd rather be in the position of believing the US had the financial means to where if we had to spend the money on something we could, without printing it and having China float us a loan.

That is a big driver why I support Ron Paul.

I just don't hear other candidates preaching a philosophy of realistic financial independence.

That is interesting.
I hope there is something to that, as I would like to see Cain keep campaigning...

Repealing ObamaCare seems to be at the top of Romney's list.

And you believe him?


Sorry sir, but I do NOT...

The Defense Department has already used Lean Six Sigma to save more than $22 billion, increasing productivity 1,000 percent in some facilities."

Newt may be the smartest guy in the world , but he better stop repeating BS that he personally has no way of verifying.All these recycled "just in time" effeciency programs coming out of Japan have been discredited by businesses who actually bought into them.