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#5767959 - 11/01/11 Re: Best Gun and Caliber for Backpacking [Re: Kevin_T]
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Wide?
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#5768062 - 11/01/11 Re: Best Gun and Caliber for Backpacking [Re: T_O_M]
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Registered: 09/08/04
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Loc: TriCities, WA
Freud?
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#5768154 - 11/01/11 Re: Best Gun and Caliber for Backpacking [Re: David_Walter]
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Registered: 10/06/09
Posts: 618
Loc: Western Colorado
Well, I've seen her, and she ain't wide...

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#5769769 - 11/01/11 Re: Best Gun and Caliber for Backpacking [Re: evanhill]
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Registered: 04/15/10
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Loc: Western Colorado
That would be a typo , D and F are next to each other smile
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#5769977 - 11/01/11 Re: Best Gun and Caliber for Backpacking [Re: Kevin_T]
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Registered: 03/23/07
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Loc: E. WA / N. ID
i will spin barrels onto my rem ti till i can screw no more....and then likely one or two more.
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#5770370 - 11/01/11 Re: Best Gun and Caliber for Backpacking [Re: high_country_]
Take_a_knee Offline
Campfire 'Bwana

Registered: 09/10/09
Posts: 13855
What does the end of that Ti 700 action look like? Is turned smooth or does it look like it was chop-sawed like most 700's?

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#5771107 - 11/02/11 Re: Best Gun and Caliber for Backpacking [Re: Take_a_knee]
DakotaDeer Offline
Campfire 'Bwana

Registered: 01/19/05
Posts: 14846
I prefer Model Seven stainless myself, for lightweight, in a good custom stock like Mickey or Brown.

But I do agree with Dober, if there be any way to carry it, a bit more weight in the tube is nice. I prefer the Seven XCR and the SAUM tube. However, I like a 20" for carry so would cut the SAUM tube down by 2".

To me, the Seven XCR (in 308 if you can find one) bedded in a Brown stock is about as useful as it gets.

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#5771538 - 11/02/11 Re: Best Gun and Caliber for Backpacking [Re: DakotaDeer]
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Registered: 06/25/04
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Loc: Nomad
I had both the Kimber Montana and the Tikka t3 .270. The Montana went down the road and the Tikka is the go to rifle for anything I hunt. My Montana was finicky mechanically but once it was figured out it shot submoa but my field accuracy suffered. The Tikka shot slightly smaller groups on paper but was much easier to hit with in field positions for me. Like Dober and others I prefer just a little bit more meat on the barrel than the Montana contour.
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#5771611 - 11/02/11 Re: Best Gun and Caliber for Backpacking [Re: varmintsinc]
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I had a Seven XCR in .308 and it didn't shoot worth a [bleep]. It came in the middle of a run of real lemons I got from Remington. It was probably one of the last Seven XCRs to leave the shop. It was supposed to be a 7mm-08. By the time it arrived at my dealer so we found out the wholesaler sent the wrong gun, they had no more Seven XCRs at all and said Remington would not be sending any more. frown I tried to make the best of it ...

Tom
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#5771637 - 11/02/11 Re: Best Gun and Caliber for Backpacking [Re: T_O_M]
Calvin Offline
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Registered: 09/25/03
Posts: 15129
Loc: AK
Best gun? A rifle that will go around 7lb with scope. Stainless action and barrel. 22" barrel. Good trigger. A stock that can take a beating and not look like crap is nice too. A backpack hunt is about 99% sweat and 1% pulling the trigger. Hard to get too romantic about a specific make/model.

Caliber? If you reload, go crazy. If you don't, go with a 30-06.
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#5771701 - 11/02/11 Re: Best Gun and Caliber for Backpacking [Re: Calvin]
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Thread closed. smile
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#5774900 - 11/03/11 Re: Best Gun and Caliber for Backpacking [Re: T_O_M]
DakotaDeer Offline
Campfire 'Bwana

Registered: 01/19/05
Posts: 14846
Originally Posted By: T_O_M
I had a Seven XCR in .308 and it didn't shoot worth a [bleep]. It came in the middle of a run of real lemons I got from Remington. It was probably one of the last Seven XCRs to leave the shop. It was supposed to be a 7mm-08. By the time it arrived at my dealer so we found out the wholesaler sent the wrong gun, they had no more Seven XCRs at all and said Remington would not be sending any more. frown I tried to make the best of it ...

Tom


Still for sale?

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#5776072 - 11/03/11 Re: Best Gun and Caliber for Backpacking [Re: DakotaDeer]
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Registered: 02/03/06
Posts: 580
Loc: Jackson, MS
I have spent plenty of time backpacking a custom 30-06 that weighs 7.8lbs. I would not want a lighter rifle. The weight of the rifle makes it easier for me to hold steady. I find that ultra lightweight rifles are difficult to shoot at long ranges.
The 30-06 will kill the snot out of anything that walks the earth in North America. Mine with handloaded 168TTSX have taken 4 anamals this fall; Dall Sheep, Caribou, AK/Yukon Moose, & Mule Deer.

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#5776398 - 11/03/11 Re: Best Gun and Caliber for Backpacking [Re: Mississippi]
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Registered: 01/25/01
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My main backpack rifle is a Rem SS Mtn rifle in 30-06 that weighs 6lb. 4 oz. empty w/out scope. Never weighed it full up. I'd prefer lighter.

Years ago I designed and never built my concept of a back pack rifle: Short action for weight saving, 7mm to .30 cal (probably would go .308 to bore out the barrel for less weight and larger bullets with more oomph.) Bolt action bullpup, with an overall length that would go inside my backpack.

That rifle would be small and compact to carry and slow to cyle, essentially a fast reloading single shot. Short, light, handy.

While it is true that heavy rifles are easier to aim steady, I'll opt for light carry and try for close shots or a natural rest, as I do already.

Of course, last weekend I had to stand tall and shoot at a small piece of a buck offhand at 170 yards as my only option with no rest possible. laugh Tight sling and got the job done.

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#5778540 - 11/04/11 Re: Best Gun and Caliber for Backpacking [Re: DakotaDeer]
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Originally Posted By: DakotaDeer
Still for sale?

Sold 3-4 (?) years ago.

Tom
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#5781203 - 11/05/11 Re: Best Gun and Caliber for Backpacking [Re: Tag]
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Registered: 10/12/08
Posts: 115
Loc: West Coast of Nowhere
Winchester M-70 FWT 280 Remington, Zeiss 3x9 with B & C Metalist stock. Thats the ticket.
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#5784605 - 11/06/11 Re: Best Gun and Caliber for Backpacking [Re: Firemann]
prm Offline
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Registered: 10/27/08
Posts: 5343
I was skeptical about the Montana but got the itch and tried one. All other rifles now sit in the safe when it comes time to hunt. Handles and shoots like a dream. Mine's an 84m and weighs just a tick over 6lb. That includes scope, sling and 4 rounds of ammo. Shoots 180/185s at mid-2700s to 2800. Playing with another load using 160s at ~3000 fps. I anticipate that will kill anything I intend to hunt, and it would take a lot of coin to get a lighter rifle. If I switch to a 6x36 it will be under 6lbs full up ready to go.

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#5784620 - 11/06/11 Re: Best Gun and Caliber for Backpacking [Re: Tag]
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Registered: 11/14/08
Posts: 11207
Originally Posted By: Tag
I'm looking to upgrade my Elk hunting rifle. I do a backpack hunt every year and have been using an older model M70. I'd like to upgrade to something nicer and in a synthetic/stainless combination. My question is what brand would be a good choice? I like the reviews I've seen of the Kimber Montanna and the Model 70 in synthetic might also be a good choice. Any suggestions? And caliber reccomendation? I'd like to hunt Elk and Deer with this rifle. Currently I'm using a 30.06 but would like to consider other calibers like the .300 WM.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.


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#5799982 - 11/11/11 Re: Best Gun and Caliber for Backpacking [Re: Swampman700]
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Registered: 04/17/08
Posts: 2071
Loc: Wasilla, Alaska
I have a stock Kimber Montana in .308 and with scope and rings its right at 96 oz. or 6 pounds.

I also have a Remington Model 7 in a McMillian Edge and even though there are 2" less barrel its right at 99-100 oz with a lighter scope and rings.

Bang for buck I'd go Kimber of Remington Model 7 but my dad gave me the model 7 14 years ago so I'd let the Kimber go over that rifle but only for sentimental value.

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#5804312 - 11/12/11 Re: Best Gun and Caliber for Backpacking [Re: T_O_M]
rost495 Offline
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Registered: 01/05/05
Posts: 38871
Loc: La Grange, TX
I built mine. Rem 660 with a 284 win light tube. Figure it'll take anything I need up to moose. Doesn't leave a lot of room for error in the larger animals but I'm ok with that. I just have to get close enough and pick my shots.
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#5804874 - 11/12/11 Re: Best Gun and Caliber for Backpacking [Re: rost495]
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Registered: 04/24/11
Posts: 450
Loc: PA
I'd try to get a Remington model 7 stainless/synthetic in 300 RSAUM or a mountain rifle LSS mountain rifle in 280 or 30-06 get rid of the laminated stock and drop it in a nice light weight synthetic stock

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#5804910 - 11/12/11 Re: Best Gun and Caliber for Backpacking [Re: ts300wsm]
GreBb Offline
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Registered: 05/26/08
Posts: 733
Blaser K95 single shot.
It is light, accurate and breaks down.
If you handload, in 7x57R. If you don't, then a 270.

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