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Can anyone expain all the hype surrounding the usefullness of the 7mm-08. Note I am not a handloader and when I compare the 7mm-08 factory loads with the .308win factory loads the .308 seems to have the advantage out until about 300yards where the 7mm seams to continue to fly better and faster! Are they both loaded in the same case with the same powder loads or does the length of the 7mm bullet limit the case capacity. If one had a .308 rifle with a shot out tube would it be worth considering rebarreling to 7mm-08? I hunt deer and moose a lot with a .308 but I am very curious about the 7mm-08.
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7-08, slightly flatter.
308, slightly bigger hole.
308 is the lowest-drama round I've ever worked with... easy on the shoulder, eager to please.
I'd always rather have the 308 Win than the 7-08 personally...
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Peas in a pod. FActory load only... screams .308 to me.
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There's not a nickle worth of difference except the .308 can be found everywhere.
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140 in 7-08 vs 150 in .308 apples to apples
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I usually run 165/68's...
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Not sure about the hype, but I have 7mm08 and it is a dandy. No noticeable recoil, even in a light gun. Shoots flat further than I can. And FWIW, my local retailer rarely has any short action caliber other than 243 on hand. I can order my Federal Fusion and cheap Privi practice rounds from Midway for about the same cost as any other rounds. The gun drops whitetail when I do my job and makes it easy to do my job. When my sons are old enough to shoot, the 7mm08 is plenty mild for them to take on. . .
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My only experience with the 308 was in a Win 88 (besides the 240 Golf) but that thing kicked harder than my 340 Wby. Probably just stock design but I haven't liked the 308 since.
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My only experience with the 308 was in a Win 88 (besides the 240 Golf) but that thing kicked harder than my 340 Wby. Probably just stock design but I haven't liked the 308 since. To each his own, I guess. I have a 308 M88 and it's a pussycat. Re: the original question, for what you're going to use it for (up to moose), I'd stick with the bigger caliber, though there isn't much difference between the two. If you were a dedicated handloader and long-range shooter/hunter (past 300 yards), the 7-08 becomes more attractive. If Boxer gets a hold of this thread, be ready to hear about boolits and b.c. and how stupid we all are to not drop the 308 for the Amax'd 7-08. 
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Can anyone expain all the hype surrounding the usefullness of the 7mm-08. Note I am not a handloader and when I compare the 7mm-08 factory loads with the .308win factory loads the .308 seems to have the advantage out until about 300yards where the 7mm seams to continue to fly better and faster! Are they both loaded in the same case with the same powder loads or does the length of the 7mm bullet limit the case capacity. If one had a .308 rifle with a shot out tube would it be worth considering rebarreling to 7mm-08? I hunt deer and moose a lot with a .308 but I am very curious about the 7mm-08. 7-08 has a bit less recoil. .308 a bit more bullet. One can be loaded to do essentially the same thing as the other. With run of the mill hunting bullets/ammo the 7-08 is indeed gonna be a BIT "flatter" though that is fool's gold IMHO. I killed a decent number of deer with 7-08. It sure works. Great cartridge. .308 has always seemed to be a 30-06 wannabe to me and I've avoided it for that reason... other than owning 3-4 of the damn things, lol.
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Gee......this sounds familiar.....I'll check back in 150 pages when the fishin and girl pics start...
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POST YOUR LOAD!!!! How long before someone claims that they "won"?  George
�Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�
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"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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I thought you were supposed to start with pics of women with fish? Memory must be slipping...
George
�Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�
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Oops!...My bad... You are right.... Happy Thanksgiving George.
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To you and yours (dogs included ) as well, my friend. I'll leave you fellas to the pics for a bit....I have to go shovel off my wood piles before I head up to see the family. George
�Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.�
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Have and like them both. Like a good horse they just do what is expected. Today I like the 7mm-08 for doing the same job with less recoil.
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"Can anyone expain all the hype surrounding the usefullness of the 7mm-08."
nope, sell more guns, give us more to debate, keeps the small cartridge guys happy, comes in a short action ??? Got me?
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Wouldn't it kind of be like explaining the hype of the 270 over the 06.
Or the difference between the hype of the 270 over the 280.
That should get someone fired up ????
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308 has been a genuine keeper for me. This South Dakota mule deer was taken at approx 225 yards with a single bullet through the chest organs. My rifle shoots 150 grain FEDERAL ammo best of all. Sherwood ![[Linked Image]](http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/rushmoreman/muley3.jpg)
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