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All you listed plus consistent brass.
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Lets assume we started with a powder that's a known producer for said cartridge. OK.And assuming we are safle close to max, bullet runnout. IME this trumps all else.Crooked ammo will never shoot, no matter how the other components are juggled. +1!!!!!!
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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E. Seating depth
F. All of the above, depending on the rifle
In most cases A, D or C, but sometimes E and F. Never had B. +1 All can be equally as important. After finding a combination of brass, bullet, powder, and primer, one that will group well. Option E will usually fine tune that load. Shipster
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So far everyone has missed the Obvious.
O. Reading your chronograph
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So far everyone has missed the Obvious.
O. Reading your chronograph You won't get a reading on the screen without powder  
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Accuracy wins all in my book, or are we using the chrono for pressure signs?
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I don't play much with loads anymore. I just calculate the barrel time (Chris Long's OBT model), run it through Quickload. Select a powder that fills the case between 92 and 98% and gives good velocity. Develop around that optimum, and done you are.
I used to vary powder and seating depth, phase of the moon and all sorts of stuff.
It's much easier to stack the deck in your favor before starting.... JMO, Dutch.
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I don't play much with loads anymore. I just calculate the barrel time (Chris Long's OBT model), run it through Quickload. Could you expound on this please,Chris Long OBT. Who and what is this? Barrel time?
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Figuring out the mysterious force of nature that makes a load work in your gun, and no other gun.
Money can't buy you happiness, but it can buy you a hunting license and that's pretty close.
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Figuring out the mysterious force of nature that makes a load work in your gun, and no other gun. Going to have to call bs on that one.....Just sayin..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I don't play much with loads anymore. I just calculate the barrel time (Chris Long's OBT model), run it through Quickload. Could you expound on this please,Chris Long OBT. Who and what is this? Barrel time? Read through your load manual on the how to's of reloading like I suggested earlier and then get back to us...You may also want to buy a couple more load manuals from your favorite bullet supplier. I've got them from sierra, Nosler, hornady, and speer. There's also small handbooks that cover one cartridge and has just about all the reloading data in it you could ever need. I've got those for just about every cartridge I load for. Make sure you have an understanding of the tips and tricks, recommended procedures to produce quality ammo and buy the little helpful tools that make life easier like hand held power tools that debur the case necks inside and out and also clean the primer pockets. Learn what you need and also things you can live without (like digital scales for example, they are nice but not necessary). It's also nice to keep your cases clean so a good tumbler makes sense.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Figuring out the mysterious force of nature that makes a load work in your gun, and no other gun. Going to have to call bs on that one.....Just sayin.. You missed my humor......just saying,
Money can't buy you happiness, but it can buy you a hunting license and that's pretty close.
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Figuring out the mysterious force of nature that makes a load work in your gun, and no other gun. Going to have to call bs on that one.....Just sayin.. You missed my humor......just saying, I was wondering. I took a shot in the dark and missed....Sorry, now I get it  . Carry on......
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Bullet then powder.
A very important factor in load development is bench technique. Every round sent downrange needs to be sent the exact same way.
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