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In this clip we see Freddie Macs $1.6 million dollar lobbyist Gingrich and Ron Pauls insight into the bubble and subsequent crash.



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What, no love for the clueless FM lobbyist pimp Gingrich?

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this whole bubble and crash related to real estate and housing makes me so mad i could spit.

why there aren't tons of demopublicans and others in jail just boggles the mind.

unmitigated greed on all sides of the RoundTable is the only way i have of defining what has happened to us.

and then we bailout the banks while the homeowners get evicted.

there's a flaw in the slaw for certain.


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Dramatic contrast, eh? All you needed to predict the bursting of the housing bubble was a solid foundation in the principles of free market capitalism, and yet it caught Gingrich, but not Paul, completely by surprise.

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Originally Posted by Gus
this whole bubble and crash related to real estate and housing makes me so mad i could spit.

why there aren't tons of demopublicans and others in jail just boggles the mind.

unmitigated greed on all sides of the RoundTable is the only way i have of defining what has happened to us.

and then we bailout the banks while the homeowners get evicted.

there's a flaw in the slaw for certain.
Yet another contrast between these two. Gingrich favored the bailouts while Paul opposed each and every one.

One thing this race has made clear, and that's which are the conservatives and which the neocons here at the Fire. Anyone who's enthusiastic about Gingrich, with all that's been brought out about the man (so no one can later claim ignorance), is nothing short of a textbook example of a neocon.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Yet another contrast between these two. Gingrich favored the bailouts while Paul opposed each and every one.

One thing this race has made clear, and that's which are the conservatives and which the neocons here at the Fire. Anyone who's enthusiastic about Gingrich, with all that's been brought out about the man (so no one can later claim ignorance), is nothing short of a textbook example of a neocon.





The only thing that matters to most here is that Newt has a little (R) in front of his name.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
One thing this race has made clear, and that's which are the conservatives and which the neocons here at the Fire. Anyone who's enthusiastic about Gingrich, with all that's been brought out about the man (so no one can later claim ignorance), is nothing short of a textbook example of a neocon.


Gingrinch is a progressive. Plain and simple. I think they all have been since Regan. Gingrinch wil be foist upon us the same way The RINO from AZ was.


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Gingrich, O'Reilly, Hannity, . . . is there any difference?


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Originally Posted by OrangeOkie
Gingrich, O'Reilly, Hannity, . . . is there any difference?
That sums it up pretty well.

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Paul's a nice, principled man who I'd no more trust the security of our country to than Obama or John Kerry. The fact that he will not renounce a run as an independent should disqualify him as a serious R.

Gingrich is hopeless. Romney is not trustworthy.

I vote for a brokered convention where an electable conservative can be nominated.

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Originally Posted by leverite2
The fact that he will not renounce a run as an independent should disqualify him as a serious R.
That's the brainwash line that's been put out there by the establishment media intended to turn Republicans against him. Instead of asking the man about his positions, and how they distinguish him from the rest of the pack, all they ever do in the rare event they actually interview him is ask him, as between Gingrich and Romney, which one of the two he thinks is going to ultimately win the nomination, and then spend ten minutes trying to brow beat him into discussing his plans for when he loses the Republican nomination.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Gus
this whole bubble and crash related to real estate and housing makes me so mad i could spit.

why there aren't tons of demopublicans and others in jail just boggles the mind.

unmitigated greed on all sides of the RoundTable is the only way i have of defining what has happened to us.

and then we bailout the banks while the homeowners get evicted.

there's a flaw in the slaw for certain.
Yet another contrast between these two. Gingrich favored the bailouts while Paul opposed each and every one.

One thing this race has made clear, and that's which are the conservatives and which the neocons here at the Fire. Anyone who's enthusiastic about Gingrich, with all that's been brought out about the man (so no one can later claim ignorance), is nothing short of a textbook example of a neocon.


Let's call the Neocons what they really are, SOCIALISTS!


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Originally Posted by derby_dude
Let's call the Neocons what they really are, SOCIALISTS!
They are absolutely of the left, as are socialists, but they are not actually socialists themselves, although they've made peace with socialism in the United States as it stands currently. They are, however, leftists in seeking the consolidation of national governance in Washington, DC., as they're convinced they can "do big government" better than the traditional American left, and care little, if at all, for the United States Constitution (which they see as an antiquated drag on their hopes and dreams of an American Empire), which makes sense since its design was to maintain a condition of decentralized governance with a weak central aspect.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by leverite2
The fact that he will not renounce a run as an independent should disqualify him as a serious R.
That's the brainwash line that's been put out there by the establishment media intended to turn Republicans against him. Instead of asking the man about his positions, and how they distinguish him from the rest of the pack, all they ever do in the rare event they actually interview him is ask him, as between Gingrich and Romney, which one of the two he thinks is going to ultimately win the nomination, and then spend ten minutes trying to brow beat him into discussing his plans for when he loses the Republican nomination.


Just because he's been consistent in his positions, does not make him consistently right. I've heard him speak extensively in the debates about how we have encouraged the hatred of the radical islamists. His naivete is consistent, and suitable to a congressman that has no real responsibility for our national defense. He will not get my Tea Party vote.

On the other hand, Gingrich is completly inconsistent, unlike a stopped clock that is at least correct twice a day.

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Originally Posted by The Real Hawkeye
That's the brainwash line that's been put out there by the establishment media intended to turn Republicans against him. Instead of asking the man about his positions, and how they distinguish him from the rest of the pack, all they ever do in the rare event they actually interview him is ask him, as between Gingrich and Romney, which one of the two he thinks is going to ultimately win the nomination, and then spend ten minutes trying to brow beat him into discussing his plans for when he loses the Republican nomination.


We know his positions. He's an out of the closet libertarian, which is why many of his positions seem liberal (gays in the military) and many seem conservative, but Ron Paul is neither liberal or conservative.

No libertarian running as a Libertarian has ever been elected to Federal office and for good reason. Once the liberal MSM focuses on the "no preemptive laws" position of libertarians they come across as nut cases to most of the voting public. If Ron Paul were the Republican candidate he would get such a trouncing by the MSM that by election day many Republicans would be voting for Obama and many more would just stay home.

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But gee as some of you moderates on he say he's electable. You people cave so easy. It's no wonder the libturds are kicking our butts.


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Ron Paul vs. Newt Gingrich???
Not much of a contest�here is Newt�s side of the comparison�


By Tony Blankley about his boss as the Republican whip from 1989-1994.
He was there...

It was the most successful congressional opposition movement since Benjamin Disraeli formed the modern Conservative Party in Britain in the mid-19th century.
And after the GOP took back the House for the first time in 40 years (and the Senate, too, by the way), Gingrich's four years as speaker proved to be the most productive, legislative congressional years since at least 1965 to 1967, and they were led by Lyndon B. Johnson from the White House.
Working against -- and with -- Democratic President Bill Clinton, we passed into law most of the Contract with America, welfare reform, telecommunications reform (which ushered in the modern cell phone and Internet age), we had the first balanced budget since before the Vietnam War, we cut taxes and lowered unemployment to under 5 percent.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye

One thing this race has made clear, and that's which are the conservatives and which the neocons here at the Fire. Anyone who's enthusiastic about Gingrich, with all that's been brought out about the man (so no one can later claim ignorance), is nothing short of a textbook example of a neocon.


Some of us remember Gingrich from 'back then'.

While I didn't approve of Bills actions I approved even less the big deal that was made of it. And the ringleader was Gingrich.

Thing about NeoCons, I'm a conservative, years ago I was shocked to realize how Conservative I am.

But then along comes the post Clinton era and the sharp rise of the NeoCon and now I'm being called Lefty.

And whats called Conservative today is allot like the Anarchists of the 60's, not caring what they do, who they hurt or what they destroy to get what they want, they want what they want and don't care what they need do to get it.

And I believe that explains Newt and his appeal to the 'conservative'.



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Originally Posted by BobInNEO

And I believe that explains Newt and his appeal to the 'conservative'.





Newt's appeal is he's got that big 'ol bobblehead and when he gets it going back and forth it mesmerizes the Right.

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Newt�s appeal to this Goldwater/Reagan Conservative is his record as posted about two clicks above.

Show me a better one from anyone as I await holding my breath for someone to post Paul�s record.


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