|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 904
Campfire Regular
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 904 |
Looking to build a custom rifle. I have a donor rem 700, but I really like an action that "locks the bolt" when the safety is on. It's just a personal preference.
I have been hunting with the NULA and really like the two position three function safety which locks the bolt but you can push down on the safety to work the bolt without putting the safety on fire.
I know ruger, winchester, savage all offer a 3 position safety.
How about the borden actions, stiller actions?
Any modifications for the remington 700?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 8,757 Likes: 4
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 8,757 Likes: 4 |
Shop around for a older M700. There are a number of years where Rem kept the slot milled under the bolt but bobbed off the lever that sticks up into the slot. You can buy the trigger parts from NULA to retrofit it to a bolt that has the slot. Retrofit a Dave Gentry 3 position safe to a m700 or clone.
dave
Only accurate rifles are interesting.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 327
Campfire Member
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 327 |
Take a look at Bighorn actions, you get a lot for your money......AJ is a great guy to talk to and deal with.
Depending on just how much u want to do to a factory 700 action, for a bit more you can step up into a custom action. There are a # of good actions available.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 904
Campfire Regular
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 904 |
Anybody know how the safety functions on the Borden's or Stiller actions? Does it lock the bolt handle?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 327
Campfire Member
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 327 |
If your asking "when the safety is on the bolt won't lift" then no its not like that on the Stillers.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 7,110
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 7,110 |
bat machine or surgeon, although my BAT does not lock the bolt, if my bolt comes open while carrying the thing I would think I would know it, but its never happened.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,573 Likes: 1
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,573 Likes: 1 |
I know how you feel. I'm left eyed and right shouldered. I carry slung over the right shoulder, putting the bolt right in the kidney, bouncing. It's easy to knock open for me. I've got Blaser, NULA, and Win 70 and they all solve the problem. Back to the question, my only other custom is on a Nesika Bay, and the bolt does NOT lock on safe. Don
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 904
Campfire Regular
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 904 |
bat machine or surgeon, although my BAT does not lock the bolt, if my bolt comes open while carrying the thing I would think I would know it, but its never happened. Sorry, what does BAT stand for?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 7,110
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 7,110 |
bat machine company if you want the finest reminton 700 clone made, BAT is your action
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 505
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 505 |
BAT= Bruce A Thom, the owner
Failure's always an option
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 9,130
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 9,130 |
bat machine company if you want the finest reminton 700 clone made, BAT is your action I would say Borden and Defiance have earned a spot up there with BAT also!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 505
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 505 |
It looks like Defiance might build Borden's actions, I know Glenn built them ages ago when he had Nesika Bay--back in the early stages of the "Borden Bumps". It might be something to consider as they allow for easy bolt operation and still give you tight tolerances when the bolt's closed. BAT holds many of his actions to really tight tolerances that might be a concern on a sporter.
Failure's always an option
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,206
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,206 |
I see no reason why Defiance cannot build an action to accomodate your request. They have great service and a great product.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 505
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 505 |
Glenn and Bruce are both well regarded in the world of precision shooting, might just talk to each of them and get a better idea
Failure's always an option
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,792
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 5,792 |
Anybody know how the safety functions on the Borden's or Stiller actions? Does it lock the bolt handle? My Stiller Predator WILL open with the safety on. John
If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 4,347
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 4,347 |
You might consider a Howa action with a Timney three position safety......aint a custom, but will shoot every bit as accurate if you are using hunting bullets. Charlie
The data and opinions contained in these posts are the results of experiences with my equipment. NO CONCLUSIONS SHOULD BE DRAWN FROM ANY DATA PRESENTED, DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, ATTEMPT TO REPLICATE THESE RESULTSj
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 9,130
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 9,130 |
It looks like Defiance might build Borden's actions, I know Glenn built them ages ago when he had Nesika Bay--back in the early stages of the "Borden Bumps". It might be something to consider as they allow for easy bolt operation and still give you tight tolerances when the bolt's closed. BAT holds many of his actions to really tight tolerances that might be a concern on a sporter. Jim Borden builds his own actions, Borden bumps were actually Jim's design used by Nesika bay!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 7,110
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 7,110 |
BAT holds many of his actions to really tight tolerances that might be a concern on a sporter. alot of people say that, I suppose if you want a tactical rifle that gets sand and dirt in the action, it might be too tight. I don't throw my guns in the dirt and for hunting purposes I see no problem with BAT's remington clones. they spiral flute the bolt which I think helps keep it clear of any gunk that can slow down the bolt. if you want a bank vault for an action, bat machine is your answer.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 10,102
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 10,102 |
bat machine company if you want the finest reminton 700 clone made, BAT is your action +1
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,130
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,130 |
Look at the new Shilen action, offers Remington footprint, accepts Remington type triggers, and has Savage style interchangeable barrels, and a floating bolt head. They offer complete rifles, barreled actions and actions. http://www.shilen.com/productsCompleteRifles.htmlOtherwise, for 99% of big game and varmint hunting either a Savage Precision Target Action (they sell the actions only, in right bolt/right port, right bolt/left port, or dual port configurations will work fine, so will the Remington 700, XR100, and 40X actions. I haven't seen enough of an accuracy gain in custom actions other than in benchrest competition to justify the cost and replacement parts supply disadvantage. These are boutique manufacturers producing a limited number of pieces that come and go, while the Savage and Remington models are produced in hundreds of thousands and millions.
|
|
|
|
181 members (450yukon, 375sunrise, 17CalFan, 2500HD, 10gaugemag, 257_X_50, 23 invisible),
1,936
guests, and
1,053
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,192,502
Posts18,490,510
Members73,972
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|