Home Forums Reloading Big Game Rifles 168 TSX for the 06.

I have Barnes TSX 168 grain bullets coming soon and wanted to know your recommendations on powders. I currently have H4831sc, Reloader 22, Retumbo, and H414. I was thinking of starting off with H414. Anything different I have to consider when using Barnes bullets? I have only reloaded sierras and hornady bullets. Thanks.

168 TSX/58.5 H4350/WW Brass/Fed 210M

That was my recipe and it worked well for the few animals I used it on.

I sure do like that H4350. I've switched to it for just about every bullet I use in the good ol 06. I'm getting great velocity and accuracy, it's and "extreme" powder which makes it work great in real cold and real hot temps.

I load up the 168's with 4350. I just loaded up some Scenars with 4350. I need to go to RL17, 15, or 414 with the 155's though if I want to speed it up a bit. Great accuracy tough.

i think the rifle has a 1:10 twist? I didn't know if the rate will stabilize the 168/165 or if I should go up or down in bullet weight? Its a Remmy 700 ADL with stainless barrel and new stock design? I may have to try that 4350 powder. Thanks.

H4350, IMR 4831, and Re 19 are my favorites for the '06. Ramshot Hunter is on the list to try in the next month.

Can't go wrong with 57 grains of H414 and the 168TSX if your rifle will handle it. Mine shoots 3/4 MOA most days which is more than accurate enough for my hunting.

+1 in 2 'o6's I have.

I usually find the (T)TSX will take .5-1 gr more than conventional bullets.

Of the powders you have on hand I'd go with '22 & 414 in that order to try 1st.

But I really think you'd like H4350 better than either.

MM

I'm the opposite on the powder charge... I've found the TSX usually requires .5 - 1.0 gr less than conventional bullets. With 165/168's I generally run 59.0 H4350 in the 30-06.

i use 58.5gr of h4350 and they are deadnutz on with the 168ttsx.i also use 60gr h4350 for the 150 tsx,the poi difference is very small.i think im getting around 2850-2900 with the 168s.imr4350 also shot good but the h4350 was just more accurate,this is in a 1951 721-3006

That's interesting...............across 5 different calibers I've loaded the TSX's in, in every case, I've been able to use more powder to get to what appears to be similar pressures than with bullets like a Sierra or some Noslers that have more bearing surfaces.

Learn something new every day.

MM

The ballistic technicians I've talked to (several) say the TSX produces as little pressure as any other bullet--and even less in lighter weights.

Hunter is the only other powder I've found that will approach H4350 for all-around performance with 165-168 grain bullets in the .30-06. I usually try both these days.

Thanks for the info, John.............nice to know I'm not alone in my observations.

With the old solid shank, pre-triple groove Barnes bullets, Id did think those built pressure a bit faster than conventional bullets.

The triple groove bullets are a good thing from that standpoint.

MM

My observations have been different in the 5 or 6 rifles I've loaded TSX's in... all required a smidge less powder to achieve the same velocities as various other cup and core bullets.

My observation to you MM was not to be "right," it was to offer an alternative view.

A little tender in your feelers apparently...

Did not intend it to come across that way, Brad. Your experience is what it is, as is mine.

You're one of the people here who's posts I respect & it's interesting that your experience is counter to what I've seen.

I have read several other reports though, that confirm that the triple grooved bullets usually lower pressure a bit & consequently will accept a bit more powder.......we are talking a grain or less in most cases.

What other calibers have you loaded the (T)TSX's for?

MM

I've loaded them in a couple of 300 WSM's, couple 308's, couple 30-06's, a 260 and a 257 Rob.

Barnes uses the lower pressure thing as a marketing tool... I'm not saying it's true or isn't true, I've just never seen it. Like I said, that's all I was reporting, wasn't trying to stir controversy.

Best,

Brad

Yeah, me neither.

I've used them in 2 'o6's, 270, 2 280's, 25-o6, 7-08, & 6mm.

Been accurate in all cases, taken on the whole.

Happy New Year to you.

MM

Ramshot Big Game shot great accuracy and velocity in my 30-06 with 168 gr TTSX. Killed Dall Sheep, Mountain Caribou, Moose, Mule Deer, and Whitetail this fall.
I would be so much better off if I sold all my other rifles and spent my time and $$$$$ hunting with my 30-06, rather than reloading and shooting everyting from 223 to 444. It is fun though.

My do everything load is the 168 TSX loaded in Winchester brass, Fed 210M and 59 grs of H4350. I seat at .050 off and the load generates 2870 in my 22" 30-06 model 70 Featherweight.

Ken

What do you use the 168 TSX load for in Louisiana?