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I think there is more to it than we know. Not blaming the OP. I think I would have ordered it online or gave them a CC.


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I like to buy local. Where am I gonna go to to get a look at the new Ruger bolt?


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You beat me to it, and I certainly wouldn't waste a personal visit on it. The store can be as fickle as it chooses, and so can I.


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Perhaps they had a rash of bad experiences lately that stimulated a change in policy. Get burned 2 or 3 times and I know I will change my tune.

My wife worked in an electrican/appliance shop and had almost monthly stories of orders made for loyal customers that suddenly changed their minds. It's tough to get rid of a burgandy refrigerator or stove, and two way shipping does not typically increase profits.

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Go talk to them and then decide how you want to proceed.
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I woulda just said "Oh, OK" and went ahead and paid the deposit. On the scale of things, it hardly seems like something to get wound up about.

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+1; great advice

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I'll pick up the last gun, already paid in full, and probably never grace thier door again or recommend them. The rubber stocks were for the gun I'm waiting for, that they were aware of.

I have seen the store change over the years, to three times the price of another FFL's transfer fee, refusing to be the receiver of Glock pistols because he's a Glock dealer and wants you to buy from him, to having an attitude of not caring if you buy or not as someone else will. There are enough people in and out the door that if you don't buy it rest assured somebody will be filling out a 4473 for that item.

One of the reasons I like to frequent local businesses is for the personalized service. If I want impersonal I can get that from the internet and probably a lot cheaper to boot. I'm not foolish enough to think that my purchase of a set of rubber stocks for the already paid for revolver will make or break them. The gun I paid for, but am waiting on, is the one I wanted the stocks for. Since they are unwilling to do that I'll just take my business elsewhere and recommend others do the same.

Even with shipping and transfer fees I can get things cheaper online. Lots of businesses talk about "support your local stores" but when push comes to shove they make it hard to do so by thier attitude and lack of personal service. I have a local Gunsmith I use that is known for his work, more than one in fact. While I may have to wait my place in line to get guns worked on, I've always appreciated the personal service and attention to detail. That is a factor that seems to be lacking in this store. By the way, these 'smiths don't ask me for a deposit, or accept one, when I drop something off to be worked on and they are famous names. In some places a man's word is still good I'm glad to see.

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Not sure why you bothered to post in the first place then, asking for opinions. confused

Turns out there was a long festering wound there, and your initial post didn't reveal all of the background.

Sounds like your mind was already made up, and you just wanted somebody to validate it for you.

Go pick up your gun and move on....


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I would ask if there's been a recent policy change you've been caught up in. It's kind of like using the same gas station that requires you to pay before you pump. You deal with them long enough (paying cash) and most of the time I've seen the clerk turn on the pump and say go ahead over the intercomm. Then the new person shows up behind the counter and you've got to walk in. Me, I use my debit card.


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Methinks he doth protest too much.


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Originally Posted by BikerRN

I'd like to get the opinion of the group.

I have a LGS that I have dealth with for over 25+ years and they know who I am when I call and know me by name when I go in. This year alone I have bought three guns from them.

Anyway, I called and asked them to order me a set of grips, a less than $50 item, for a gun. They have ordered stuff for me in the past with no issues. This time they wanted me to come in and make a deposit. From all indications they aren't losing money, as guns are flying off the shelves, and they have done this for me in the past and I have always paid for the items I requested.

When I got done, and phone routed to the Manager, whom I also have known for years, I was a bit torqued and considering not ever doing business there again or recommending them.

I am a repeat customer, have ordered stuff from them in the past, and never not paid for what I've requested. I have also sent multiple sales thier way, five .41 Magnum N-Frames, without a lock, alone in the past couple of years, and bring people to thier door. I'm loyal and request the same from them. I consider it like a slap in the face to be asked to drive down and "make a deposit" on such a small item. I called Pacmayer myself and ordered them.

I'm thinking of never gracing thier door again. What say you? I have another local FFL that handles all my transfers and buy most of my better guns online but I usually give them the chance to match a price and if they come close, before taxes, I generally buy from them.

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I would have ordered them myself to begin with. I have purchased guns from most of the Gun Stores in my area and if i want to order something they won't order without a deposit and they know me well when i visit their stores.


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refusing to be the receiver of Glock pistols because he's a Glock dealer


I can certainly understand that thought. I would never ask an FFL to receive something for me that he has available in his store. To me, it brings to mind the story of the guy who takes his own oil into the dealer for an oil change and expects a discount. The dealer then visits the customers restaurant where he orders ham and eggs, and hands the waiter 2 eggs.


Similarly, the FFl's I deal with have no issues handling a Sharps or some exotic arm that they don't carry.

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Just to clarify:

I've never had this dealer do a transfer for me as his prices are a might higher than the going rate. I think he does this to discourage transfers.

I merely used the Glock example as a way of pointing out some of the policies. He will do a transfer on Ruger, S&W, Colt, Kimber, and various other makes and he carries all of them too.

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So, without reading all the posts, are you getting the same suggestions here as on the North American Hunting Club forum?


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Originally Posted by BikerRN

I'd like to get the opinion of the group.

I have a LGS that I have dealth with for over 25+ years and they know who I am when I call and know me by name when I go in. This year alone I have bought three guns from them.

Anyway, I called and asked them to order me a set of grips, a less than $50 item, for a gun. They have ordered stuff for me in the past with no issues. This time they wanted me to come in and make a deposit. From all indications they aren't losing money, as guns are flying off the shelves, and they have done this for me in the past and I have always paid for the items I requested.

When I got done, and phone routed to the Manager, whom I also have known for years, I was a bit torqued and considering not ever doing business there again or recommending them.

I am a repeat customer, have ordered stuff from them in the past, and never not paid for what I've requested. I have also sent multiple sales thier way, five .41 Magnum N-Frames, without a lock, alone in the past couple of years, and bring people to thier door. I'm loyal and request the same from them. I consider it like a slap in the face to be asked to drive down and "make a deposit" on such a small item. I called Pacmayer myself and ordered them.

I'm thinking of never gracing thier door again. What say you? I have another local FFL that handles all my transfers and buy most of my better guns online but I usually give them the chance to match a price and if they come close, before taxes, I generally buy from them.

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Times are hard a their trying to stay in business. Lots of people order stuff and lose their job and just walk away from it. I can't blame a small business owner for protecting himself.


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Originally Posted by BikerRN

I'd like to get the opinion of the group.

I have a LGS that I have dealth with for over 25+ years and they know who I am when I call and know me by name when I go in. This year alone I have bought three guns from them.

Anyway, I called and asked them to order me a set of grips, a less than $50 item, for a gun. They have ordered stuff for me in the past with no issues. This time they wanted me to come in and make a deposit. From all indications they aren't losing money, as guns are flying off the shelves, and they have done this for me in the past and I have always paid for the items I requested.

When I got done, and phone routed to the Manager, whom I also have known for years, I was a bit torqued and considering not ever doing business there again or recommending them.

I am a repeat customer, have ordered stuff from them in the past, and never not paid for what I've requested. I have also sent multiple sales thier way, five .41 Magnum N-Frames, without a lock, alone in the past couple of years, and bring people to thier door. I'm loyal and request the same from them. I consider it like a slap in the face to be asked to drive down and "make a deposit" on such a small item. I called Pacmayer myself and ordered them.

I'm thinking of never gracing thier door again. What say you? I have another local FFL that handles all my transfers and buy most of my better guns online but I usually give them the chance to match a price and if they come close, before taxes, I generally buy from them.

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Acting like a little child who stamps his feet and tells his Mommy that he is going to hold his breath until he turns blue in the face. It is the dealer's perogative to run his business how he choses, never have understood the reasoning behind making the threat to take your business elsewhere. Just shut up and do it if things don't please you, telling the dealer that you're doing that just shows lack of respect for his right to run his business how he chooses. The fact that one is a regular customer shouldn't make him an exception to the rule.

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