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Right, wrong key. Still wouldn't like the rents much for that.

Thanks for the advice. I'll look him up. Any suggestions or do I just google the name?

I hope to hit the range this Friday and start the annual patterning event.


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Yeah, just Google him. IMO, he's a great guy. He'll talk and talk chokes and turkey hunting. Even then, I've never gotten the impression that he's trying to sell you on anything or act like the super expert. He's just really passionate. I'm sending him a Benelli M2 20ga for a trigger job.

Good luck with your pattering! It's expensive if you're using the good stuff, but a bunch of fun. I rarely kill birds beyond 35-40yd. However, time at the patterning board instills a lot of confidence and it's reassuring to know you can kill much further. You just never know when a tom will hang-up or hen-up.


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hey guys, id like to fine tune my set up, im using winchester extended range out a rem, with carsons choke, how tight can go with #4s to #6s? rite now im using a .680 and dont know how much tighter will work, carlsons says .660 but i also use #4s..


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ok here goes

for yrs i used a savage stevens 12 ga sxs
with just the right side full barrel
had to let many a locked bird or ones in strut outta range go about their way
gun was maybe a 35 -40 yard gun
shot the old federal #5 3 inch 2 oz load
would get maybe 15-20 kill hits at 40 on paper
i was succesful with the gun
very succesful at times
but i could have whacked many more birds if i had dedicated turkey gun
after years of telling the wife this that and the other about birds i let go and wishing i could get a turkey gun
her my parents and her parents got me 400 bucks in wally world gift cards
i got an 835 ulti mag turkey gun

probably spent 350-400 dollars over the next 3 months doing turkey shell and choke experiments seeing what the gun liked

anyways during this entire time i was on the nitro ray and rhino websites
kinda knowing in the back of my head that was whta i wanted


but ......
i was dumb and played around
shot the factory choke
shot the ported factory choke
shot the hevi 13 loads#6 mostly
shot the federal loads
shot winchester er loads
shot the briley hevis shot choke
shot what remained on the market of the remington hevi shot stuff
at the time
shot the jelly head choke
tried to look for a star dot
remember walking by them at wally world over the years
a guy on another site has for sale
at least he did a month or so ago

the best choke and shell combo i shot that i found at 1st
was the strut stopper extreme ( not the wally world gobble stopper extreme)in .670 with hevi 13 2 1/4 oz #6 load
i was getting 220-235ish pellet count in 10 inches at 40 yrds with that combo and anywheres from 40-50 "kill" hits on paper
none of the rest came close to that
even the win er load and the old rem hevi shot loads
still i knew the nitro shell and rhino combo was what i wanted

hunted that 1st spring with the combo of sse and the hevi13
killed 3 birds
2 of them right around 40-43 yards
a shot i wouldnt take with the old sxs sitting in the closet


i made the move saved the money
sold the sxs
got the .680 2inch extended rhino choke
put a sims pad on it
set of truglo pro series sights on it and polished the barrel
got 15 501L 3.5 inch 2 5/8ths oz #4c x#5c x#7h sheels from nitro
ray in missouri(took 3 weeks for the shells to get to me)
took that in stride
went to pattern it
was getting 310-320+ hits alone in 10 inches at 40
and from 75-85+ (alot of unknown# uncountable big holes)"kill"hits on paper
1st bird i killed was at 52-53 yards that spring
was a bang flop shot...

held onto to the gun for 4 years
hit bad times
had a rifle in pawn i definately didnt want to lose
choice
sell the gun
a guy on another website watched me drop the price
on the gun
and got it for 325
i know the man is gonna be happy with it
talked to him for about 2hrs during the sale and his buddy had a nitro rhino remington set up
i basically told him
you got him man
a mossy will out peform a remington set up with the nitro rhino combo


anyways i wasnt to bent about selling the gun
i had some bad instances of nitro ray and his mom and pop reloading shop anyways
some sheel would drop dramatically in pellet count
almost to what his copper shot loads count would be
i actually called the guy up and asked him what was going
from his loads year to year
one year they would be in brown fiocchi hulls then another box would be in red federal hulls
i started talking about components
hull combustion chamber differences
wad changes
he didnt seem to care
but he sent me 10 red hulled federal loads for free anyways
just seemed like bait and switch to me
and if something works why change it
he seemed to me to be looking for less expensive components
i called him one time and actually asked him if i could send red federal hulls i could get from midsouth here in clarksville to load up
and asked him if he could tell me the type of wad he used and i would send him those also
and he could chrge me the same price still

he was not happy
this was after a conversation via email i had with him and he said the red federals were hard for himto get






anyways
i got another mossy 835 ulti mag out of a pawn shop
newer than the one i had and the camo is in way better condition
had been reading about the mag blend 3.5 readily available down the road at midsouth and gonna get a strut stopper extreme .670
aint gonna get a simms pad again(they detoirerate guys and get spongy keep any and all oil off of them and they are way to porus and hold water way to much in my opinon)gonna get another same set of sights and give this guncombo a whirl
i have heard the pellet counts are int 300+ range with the mag blends
have seen posting of pics of patterns for them


anyways
looking forward to turkey season

gonna start another thread for pics to get people antsy for turkey here in the next 80-90 days
season starts on ftcky the last week of march and then starts the 1st week of april here in tn

combined the most i ever shot in one season was 6
the # 7 season has been outta my reach
and the 8 season is a mythical beast i wish i could do some day
i did learn alot from the niotro ray website
he does have good advice about patterning guns
probably the best advice that i learned from that was when patterning
to clean between each shot so all the shots are the same sheet of music
and to polish only the barrel of an 835 dont lengthen its forcing cone
i polished my barrel with jb paste and jewlers rouge
use and imp or cyl choke when you polish a barrel not your turkey choke



good luck this year to all of you!!!!!!

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