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I have always liked the 7mms and have owned numerous 7mm Remington Mags. Now I am shooting a 7mm Ultra Mag and like it even better. No one should have any problem with recoil in the 7mms unless they have a rifle extremely light in weight or some kind of terrible stock design. As far as I am concerned one of the main virtues of the 7mm is the ability to hit very hard with minimum recoil. I have heard of pressure problems with the 7mm Ultra mag as well but have not experienced any to date using Retumbo and a variety of 150 and 160 bullets. My lot of 200 cases has been through five fireings with primer pockets still tight and no abnormal trimming. Accuracy is excellent and chronographed velocities very consistent. I also believe it is the flattest shooting big game catridge I have ever worked with. Most of the criticism I have heard concerning this catridge as well as the other Ultra Mags has come from people who never personally worked with them.

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...Most of the criticism I have heard concerning this catridge as well as the other Ultra Mags has come from people who never personally worked with them.


I think most of the criticism of them has come from people who have to sit next to someone shooting them on a firing line. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


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Ok, I'll concede they are loud...and hell on barrels, and overbore, etc. High performance always has a price and if that bothers some there is always the 7x57 which is a hell of a catridge in its own right. Anyway, have you ever noticed how the open prairie seems to just suck up sound? Very different than shooting under a roof at some range.

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I think most of the criticism of them has come from people who have to sit next to someone shooting them on a firing line. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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I think most of the criticism comes from the 30-06 nostalgic crowd and/or people whose automatic reactions are triggered when they hear the word magnum. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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No, no - you're confusing autonomic reactions with nerves that are just plain shot. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Now - before this gets out of hand, realize I'm just funnin' you guys. I had a 7mm Rem. Mag and thought it was a heck of a flat shooting round. Recoil with Nosler 150's at around 3100-3200 fps wasn't bad at all, no worse than a .30-06 180 grain load.

And man, it did indeed shoot flat. I forget the specifics, but IIRC when I had it sighted in close to 300 yards the mid range trajectory was only about 4" and it was only about 8" low at 400.

Bought it cause one year I saw a cow elk w-a-y- out yonder and wasn't comfortable taking the shot with my '06 180 grain load. So I practiced all year with the 7mm RM, got so I could hit the 14" ringer at 400 yards from prone just about every time. I was ready for those long shots.

So - naturally, the next year, my elk broke out of the trees some 30 yards in front of me. The 7mm RM worked at that range, too. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I liked the rifle and the cartridge but wanted a .300 Win. Mag. so sold it to a guy at a gun show who now tells me what new stuff he's killed with it every year when he sees me at one of the shows.


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I did much the same thing, that is abandoned my 30-06 because I kept seeing big deer it couldn't easily reach. And no, before someone suggests it, I douldn't always get closer. Of course I immediately started getting closer opportunities. This year I took my Muley at 185 which would have been perfect for the 30-06. You know what? The 7mm Ultra kills them close as easily as far. However, when you need to take that long one that big 7 seems to reach out there with the best of them. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

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I managed to get mine to shoot a 3 inch group at 200 yards yesterday. (with factory Federal Premium 160 Noslers)
I guess I am running out of time and will go with that. Since I'm not bringing a bench with me deer hunting anyhow. I am going to join the ranks of the 7828 shooters after I finish off my stash of factory ammo. I stocked up pretty good when they talked about a 1000% ammo tax. First they will have to find it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
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after shooting dozens of deer with my 7mm remington mag, it is always my main deer rifle in open country, with the 140gr ballastic tip at a cronographed 3200fps or a 160gr sierra hp gameking at 3020 it has killed everything i ever hit with it. no tracking needed, none ran off, none of the deer or bear i have shot with it went more than 20yds even when shot at a run. i can not say that about the 30-06 and i have shot a bunch of deer with it also. several twice.


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As you can tell I am very fond of the 7 Mags, but have not used mine in recent years. When the 7 Roy was the only big game rifle I owned I shot everything with it. It is a bit much for deer but will reach out and touch one on the other side of a canyon. I think bigger is better for elk size critters but have taken lots of them with both the Roy and Rem.
Of late I tend to use standard caliber rifles for deer,pigs and Tex exotics. The 300 Win Mag and 200gr bullets have worked so well on elk I have not used the 338 or my old friend the 358 Norma very much either.
However this thread got me to dig the 7 Rem out of the back of the safe and take it to Utah for elk. One shot at 288 yds put a 360 bulls dick in the dirt. The 175 Noslers at 3,000 fps were loaded in 1993 the last time I used this rifle on an Alaska caribou,sheep and moose hunt. I think I took a bear also on that safari. A 7 Mag is really a good all around caliber for a one rifle dude like I was for a long time.
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