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Talk about a threadjack. Geez I don't know what that is, but it sounds bad.
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22WRF - funny that you felt the need to white knight for a guy that several upstanding members here have said tried to [bleep] them out of their money. Seems like you just like a good argument.
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22WRF - funny that you felt the need to white knight for a guy that several upstanding members here have said tried to [bleep] them out of their money. Seems like you just like a good argument. Must be one of those "birds of a feather" things. I would definitely not do business with 22WRF after seeing how he held up for the private pilot guy.
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"I'm sorry, but are you having difficulty understanding what you've "read?" I don't see anywhere -- ANYWHERE AT ALL -- that there were terms for an inspection period. I do not see that there were terms for a return or redress of any discrepancies if the buyer didn't agree with the condition. Savvy?"
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Have you seen the printed contract between the parties? Was there a written contract between the parties? If not, how do we know the terms. Is not a contract a manifestation of "mutual" assent. Here we have only heard from one party to the transaction.
Again, as I stated, only the two people in the transaction know exactly what the terms of the transaction were. And as I stated, we have not heard from the other party as to his interpretation of the terms. Therefore, as I said, it seems premature to make any sort of subjective determination of what happened. SAVVY? Just how f*cking stupid are you? Has anyone ever quantified that for you? On a scale of 1 to 10, with a 1 being just f*cking dumb and 10 being a blithering idiot, where do you rank? As I recall, the seller stated he never agreed to any inspection period, did he not? A yes or no answer is all that's required. I also recall that the deal was brokered via an internet message board, was it not? Again, a yes or no answer will suffice. Since this transaction was brokered via the internet, logic -- that quality that you desperately need at this point -- would dictate that like the vast majority of transactions brokered via this internet message board, the terms are set via verbal or email agreement. Would that be correct? Yes or no? And it appears that those terms included the sale of a rifle which was completed, does it not? Again, try and dig out a yes or no answer the best you can. And it also appears that the buyer is now trying to change the terms of the sale upon completion of the deal, does it not? Yes or no, please. GAME OVER, DUMBASS.
I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum. I do tend to fit in well wherever I go in person. The campfire is the most outside exposure I get. No TV, no newspaper.
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Bricktop, You are wasting your time dealing with 22wrf. This guy is a tool. He can't help it.
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Bricktop, You are wasting your time dealing with 22wrf. This guy is a tool. He can't help it. I know, I missed this earlier: Onpoint
I am happy to respectfully discuss anything with anyone for as long as they wish to discuss it. Or, in other words, yes, I go on and on and on and on and on, but only if someone else goes on and on and on and on and on. Does that mean we're all pulling the strings that control him? Because I understand that little bit of "brilliance" to say that he can't restrain or in any way control himself from making a response.
I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum. I do tend to fit in well wherever I go in person. The campfire is the most outside exposure I get. No TV, no newspaper.
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"i'd rather the guy scam me out of $150 than have to worry about me being in the wrong."
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I respect you for that. No one gives a F*CK if you have any "respect" for them. No one here holds any respect for you, [bleep].
I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum. I do tend to fit in well wherever I go in person. The campfire is the most outside exposure I get. No TV, no newspaper.
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Back to pp I had a dealing with him several years ago on a 25-06 sendero that was to be NIB. Well it wasn't. The floorplate had all the bluing missing at the hinge. He did send me another floorplate and I had to return the messed up one. I said "Self never deal with this guy again" I didn't and I won't. I sent a PM to a fellow dealing with him (PP) over at AR to keep an eye on him.
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Bricktop-I think you are candy-coating this thing with 22WRF, Why don't you tell him how you really feel. You usually use a lot more adjectives than you are tonight.
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I found an add where Donnie Isaacs, aka Privatepilot aka Private pilot2 aka Privatepilot 001, had placed four years ago on Longrangehunting.com for a #1 Ruger in 7mm STW just like the one my buddy, Pety221, sold to him. I inquired about the rifle and then sent him another email stating that I was sorry that I had got so excited that he had the rifle I so desired that I failed to notice that the post was four years old. Greed took over and he replied, "Coincedently I have one I am considering selling. I will send you details if your interested". The trap was set..... Donnie, "Yes Sir, I have two left. One is my shooter and one was a spare that I have decided to sell. I will send you pics tomorrow. The stock does have some dings in it, nothing major." Me, "You have another Ruger #1 in 7mm STW for sale? Wow! Seriously? How much would your take for it? Yes, please send me the requested info along with pics please." Donnie, "Attached are the pics of the rifle. I will take $875 shipped for the rifle." [img:ctr] http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy10/longarch/Ruger17mmstw7.jpg[/img] Me, "Cool! I will not be close to a computer till around 3:00 EST so please don't think I'm not interested and sell it to anyone else. These rifles are hard to find and I don't want to miss out on this opportunity. Thanks" Donnie, "I would rate the condition about 90-92% +" Me, "Thanks for the pics. Do you have any idea how many rounds you've put down the tube and is the buttstock the only noticeable scratch on the stock and scratch on the it including metal? " Donnie, "That is the only noticeable scratch. There are several other indentions in the wood, but they are not through the finish and I can not get them to show in the pics. The metal is clean. I would say 75 rounds or less" Me, "Thank you Donnie Isaacs aka Privatepilot aka Privatepilot2 on many gun-related forums. The information you have provided due to your greed is all my friend Don (Pete) Higgins needs for his legal records. You have clearly stated the condition of the rifle as being better than what my friend stated when he sold it to you. For an example you are stating that it has only 75 rounds down the tube which you know not to be true. You have also stated that the condition of this rifle is in 90 to 92% original but yet you are attempting to squander money from Don stating that the rifle is in much less of the original factory condition. If you continue to harass him about this rifle. I will certainly post your shady dealings on all the gun-related forums that I can join with links to your banning from Carolina Shooter's Forum and probably others. I'm sure Rick will remove your access from 24hr as well due to the following post and my PM request with all the forwarded email responses from our conversations as well as the threatening emails you sent Don (Pete). I also intend to contact the ATF and report your not-so-honest deals so they can review and possibly revoke your FFL status due to your ugly schemes. You sir, are a disgrace to all, having no morals or ethics but simply a greed that over-rides good judgement. I hope you anus is the diameter of a pin head following this email. Good day sir. Jeff aka Longarch It is amazing what you can locate on the Internet if you are smart enough to use it...........Isaacs Guns LLC (660) 731-5766 (816)-868-6672 401 S Main Bogard, MO. 64622 Donnie.Isaacs gmail.com http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220926972720http://www.gunpickers.com/categories.php?category=Firearms-Modern&parent_id=1872#b8bfc41c2fe8I love this post...... It really shows your true colors.http://www.carolinashootersforum.com/showthread.php?t=95626Here's a few forums for me to start with..... All of which you are a member.http://thefiringline.com/forums/member.php?u=37470http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/pro...amp;sid=37e36ae3f64f0c5dd5ea43e33739cd59http://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/member.php/9052-privatepilothttp://www.huntingnet.com/forum/members/privatepilot.htmlhttp://forum.pafoa.org/members/privatepilot/http://www.tallygunforum.com/forum/member.php?u=7137http://www.tallahasseegunforum.com/forum/member.php?u=7137http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/members/privatepilot/http://www.shootingworld.com/bbs/me...amp;sid=0d052d12e9b1f93130c6770f3426730chttp://www.carolinashootersforum.com/member.php?u=7229http://www.hoosierhunting.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/profile/2257.htmlhttp://www.ar15.com/forumshttp://www.marlin-collectors.com/forumhttp://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/index.phphttp://www.shooterslegacy.net/forumhttp://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/members/privatepilot/http://smith-wessonforum.com/members/154755-privatepilot2.htmlhttp://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB/pro...amp;sid=65acd9856eb5d8a54ab79d37f628370chttp://www.nylonrifles.com/forumshttp://www.gunauction.com/shop/gunshop/privatepilot2http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/index.phphttp://www.gunbroker.com/ (privatepilot 001) https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/users/14052/privatepilot" I fully believe that Donnie intended to ship Don's (Pete's) 7mmSTW back to him resting in a different stock. If anyone here wishes me to forward the actual email's to them, just PM me and I will. Jeff
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I see something very clear here. I understand fairness and both sides ect, ect...
But what are the chances that so many folks misrepresnted items for this guy to request money back so often?
Some scum feed off the good character of others because they can get away with it some of the time. That helps the bottomline $$$ on a deal. Period.
Most of us would bend over backwards to make things right when things go wrong. The scum understands this clearly and uses it to their advantage. What would make somebody such a total loser?
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holy carp, Longarch! Well done!
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I did a "best offer" for $1.07 for his $4.5 million dollar website on ebay. Hope I don't win.
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22WRF, better get on the phone with Donnie Isaacs and the NAACP and make sure he's well defended here. Surely the overwhelming majority of upstanding 24hcf members can't be right!!
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I sold Donnie a Sendero the other year. He was a complete ass and didn't seem to be real up to date on ffl regulations.
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N that is the rifle I sent him. Thanks jeff n Egbert I rest my case N to Donnie as I said in the last email shoot her she's yours .
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Hey, Anybody see Donnie on here trying to explain his side.
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First, I never ask for any money back. I ask to ship the rifle back. I stated that the rifle was not in the condition he stated it was, which it wasn't. When I buy a rifle and am told it is in a certain condition, that is what I expect. I do not misrepresent my items as my feedback on ebay will show. Second, I have two of these rifles. I can post pics if needed. The rifle I will be selling is exactly as stated, less then 75 rounds and 90-92% condition, 63 to be exact and I have the load data if anyone wants it. I ask to send it back and was told it would be sold to the highest bidder and that he didn't have the money to refund me because it was already spent on another gun. I have all emails if someone wants them also. I will not be in a pissing match here. I have had many great transcations, and yes a few bad ones, even scammed for $650 on a Kimber pistol in Florida.
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First, I never ask for any money back. I ask to ship the rifle back. I stated that the rifle was not in the condition he stated it was, which it wasn't. When I buy a rifle and am told it is in a certain condition, that is what I expect. I do not misrepresent my items as my feedback on ebay will show. Second, I have two of these rifles. I can post pics if needed. The rifle I will be selling is exactly as stated, less then 75 rounds and 90-92% condition, 63 to be exact and I have the load data if anyone wants it. I ask to send it back and was told it would be sold to the highest bidder and that he didn't have the money to refund me because it was already spent on another gun. I have all emails if someone wants them also. I will not be in a pissing match here. I have had many great transcations, and yes a few bad ones, even scammed for $650 on a Kimber pistol in Florida. Again if anyone is interested in Don's (Pete's) emails to Donnie or mine just PM me. The round count is incorrect and Don (Pete) stated that the conditin was 90-95% and Donnie was attempting to sell the same rifle with a 90-92% rating. Hmmmmm, that sounds like the condition was the same if you ask me so why Donnie are you not satisfied with your rifle. You accepted the emails from Don (Pete) but continued to press hime for more stuff to go with the sale. I guess you wanted more stuff for your other rifle. If the rifle is such a disappointment to you why are you attempting to sell it for $875? That's a good profit for you. By the way, I hope you piss straighter that you do business. You are simply below the standard we wish for on this or any other site. Jeff
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First, I never ask for any money back. I ask to ship the rifle back. I stated that the rifle was not in the condition he stated it was, which it wasn't. When I buy a rifle and am told it is in a certain condition, that is what I expect. I do not misrepresent my items as my feedback on ebay will show. Second, I have two of these rifles. I can post pics if needed. The rifle I will be selling is exactly as stated, less then 75 rounds and 90-92% condition, 63 to be exact and I have the load data if anyone wants it. I ask to send it back and was told it would be sold to the highest bidder and that he didn't have the money to refund me because it was already spent on another gun. I have all emails if someone wants them also. I will not be in a pissing match here. I have had many great transcations, and yes a few bad ones, even scammed for $650 on a Kimber pistol in Florida. Did you or did you not have terms for an inspection period?
I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass. And I'm all out of bubblegum. I do tend to fit in well wherever I go in person. The campfire is the most outside exposure I get. No TV, no newspaper.
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