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This could get interesting. http://www.usatoday.com/news/washin...e-training-combative-veterans/52794974/1Police get help with vets who are ticking bombsWASHINGTON � The Justice Department is funding an unusual national training program to help police deal with an increasing number of volatile confrontations involving highly trained and often heavily armed combat veterans.
Developers of the pilot program, to be launched at 15 U.S. sites this year, said there is an "urgent need" to de-escalate crises in which even SWAT teams may be facing tactical disadvantages against mentally ill suspects who also happen to be trained in modern warfare.
"We just can't use the blazing-guns approach anymore when dealing with disturbed individuals who are highly trained in all kinds of tactical operations, including guerrilla warfare," said Dennis Cusick, executive director of the Upper Midwest Community Policing Institute. "That goes beyond the experience of SWAT teams."
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Not only disturbed vets, also the gang bangers who can use their combat experience when they get back on the streets.
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The current administration is more afraid of returning veterans, Tea Party members, people who think the government is too big, Second Amendment supporters and conservatives in general than they are of genuine terrorists. The focus on returning veterans is politically motivated and way out of proportion to any actual threat: http://www.infowars.com/war-on-terrors-new-targets-veterans-tea-partiers-anti-fed-activists/
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Not only disturbed vets, also the gang bangers who can use their combat experience when they get back on the streets. i dought that there are many gang bangers that went to the war front
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Not only disturbed vets, also the gang bangers who can use their combat experience when they get back on the streets. i dought that there are many gang bangers that went to the war front The Army has a larger gang membership, then you may realize.
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they gonna bring out them robocops.
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Ft. Hood.
It's name says it all. Gangsters rule and MP's cower down in their little cubby holes. The MP's will not come out after dark and will not enter the gangland turf of the housing areas of the Army's finest. Everyone needs to understand the reality of what is happening in our Army today.
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Ft. Hood.
It's name says it all. Gangsters rule and MP's cower down in their little cubby holes. The MP's will not come out after dark and will not enter the gangland turf of the housing areas of the Army's finest. Everyone needs to understand the reality of what is happening in our Army today. hell, bro, that chit was happening some 40 years ago. otherwise why would barracks guards be needed. are we locked into a slow-time condition? don't get me started on Ft. Hood MP's at the Division and III Corps level. they mean well, but hell, they have a career to protect.
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With any luck hussein can declare martial law also.For all of our safety of course.
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we need someone like the Gingrich, the Dr. Paul, the Santorum or the Romney Himself to re-establish command and control of the military in this Nation.
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He gets re-elected and we won't get rid of him..ever.
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He gets re-elected and we won't get rid of him..ever. Oh yeah, we will.
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There is actually a story that has run on the history channel about gang bangers joining the military for the purpose of getting combat experience and learning tactics. They also showed gang graffiti in Iraq. very disturbing.
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There is also a video out there of a criminal who had received advanced tactics training from the military using it against the police. I can't remember for sure, but I think 1 or 2 cops were killed in the encounter.
I for one would never besmirch the reputation of any of our armed services, or those that have gone and done their duty. But that does not preclude a conversation on what is a real and serious problem.
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There's something happening here, What it is ain't exactly clear
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There's a man with a gun over there Tellin' me I got to beware
�The constitution of the United States asserts that all power is inherent in the people, that they may exercise it by themselves, that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed!� � Thomas Jefferson
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There's a man with a gun over there Tellin' me I got to beware Jus gimmee 3 steps tawards tha doe Gunner
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I heard the same crap after Vietnam. As it turns out vets commit less crime than the general public.
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Jus gimmee 3 steps tawards tha doe Gunner Well the crowd cleared away and I begain to pray as the water fell on the floor
�The constitution of the United States asserts that all power is inherent in the people, that they may exercise it by themselves, that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed!� � Thomas Jefferson
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Jus gimmee 3 steps tawards tha doe Gunner Well the crowd cleared away and I begain to pray as the water fell on the floor when they pulled dem from tha flo, Leroy look like a jigzaw puzzle wit a coupla pieces gone
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