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Another option is to contact someone on campfire that lives in the same town. Someone you have confidence in, like 99% of the members. Send them the check and ask them to present the check at the same bank the check is drawn upon for cash. You will lose your $12, but if there is sufficient money in the account, you will get the amount of the check. If there is not enough money, then the person can hold it for another time. You can only send a check thru twice, but if you make sure the money is there, no problem. I have had to use this method sometimes with a bad renter. You can even call the bank (daily) to see if there is money before you go. They will not tell you how much money is there, but they will confirm the there is enough money to cover the amount of the check. The only weakness here is that the bank may charge the bank account in the time between your call and arriving at the bank an amount that brings the account lower than the amount of the check. I have even had clerks tell me that there is not enough money in the account today but be sure and check back tomorrow, which means for you to be at the door when the bank opens. I hate doing it this way. It does surprise the person writing the bad check! Let us know what happens.


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Originally Posted by watch4bear
If you contact the DA in his home town, you'll get all your money plus fee's.


Most jurisdictions would consider this a civil matter.

If criminal, do you believe the prosecutors office would pay for the OP transportation, lodging and other expenses for at least two court hearings for a $50 case?

Internet deals on the net can be compared to the law of the wild west. You are mostly on your own and what law there is is hit and miss.

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If your $50 check bounces you have no business buying a knife.

We need a bad guys sticky even if it is a rule to wait a month after deal before listing the guys name.A month is plenty of time, unless someone died then an apology can be issued.

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Sorry to hear of your dilema. I recently sent a $400 part to a fellow in Sweden that I don't know who expressed an interest in it. Told him if he didn't like it to send it back. Sure enough, 7 days later received an email asking for my paypal address so he could pay for it.

Good luck on getting your money.

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that's low. sorry to hear that. i just can't fathom it - if it were me, knowing my check had bounced....shameful. i'd make it right immediately. if it's been this long, you're not gonna hear back. a month is a whole billing statement. unacceptable. gonna agree here: it's been long enough. you should tell us who to avoid.

i'm glad some of us were raised to know this simple truth: your word is your bond. or for the newer set: "all i've got in this world is my word and my balls. and i don't break 'em for nobody."

good luck, hope you get some kind of response, but i doubt it sincerely.


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I normally use checks here.
My line of work dictates I'm rarely in town dur
ing business hours,but I always make sure the seller knows I fully expect them to take as long for clearance as they are comfortable with before sending my item.
In this day,and age of identity theft it's only fair to the seller to get his money first,you just never know.
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I am not an attorney, nor an LEO. However, at one point in time, I was under the impression that use of the internet and/or U.S. Mail to defraud someone of money or property across state boundaries was a Federal offense ? Wire fraud per 18 USC 1343 ? Mail Fraud per 18 USC 1341 ?




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Originally Posted by Orion2000
I am not an attorney, nor an LEO. However, at one point in time, I was under the impression that use of the internet and/or U.S. Mail to defraud someone of money or property across state boundaries was a Federal offense ? Wire fraud per 18 USC 1343 ? Mail Fraud per 18 USC 1341 ?
I'm under the impression that anyone who believes that bullshit has been watching too much television and believes in too many of the fairy tales that get posted on these internet message boards.


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Landman,

If he were trustworthy he would have squared up by now.

I would post his name so others will know not to deal with him.

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I have no problem accepting a personal check for payment.I would also have no problem Posting someones name who stiffed me.


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I would stay in touch with him or her and see if they make it right. You tell him you will make his name public if he doesn't live up to the bargain you two made. I have never understood what makes a person want to be a Thief.


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Originally Posted by Orion2000
I am not an attorney, nor an LEO. However, at one point in time, I was under the impression that use of the internet and/or U.S. Mail to defraud someone of money or property across state boundaries was a Federal offense ? Wire fraud per 18 USC 1343 ? Mail Fraud per 18 USC 1341 ?



Technically, maybe.

But over $50? Don't hold your breath on getting them to jump on that one.

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Technically, it's mail fraud. I hate it when this happens. I have sent a lot of personal checks to folks and received them as well, but I always make it a point to make sure they clear, and I let those who receive mine do the same.
What boggles my mind is that this sort of forum is a somewhat closed community, and all you really have to show for yourself is your reputation among your peers. $50 seems a pretty cheap price for one's integrity.

Just my 2 cents.

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Originally Posted by Balkandom
Technically, it's mail fraud.
The difference between your post and a fairy tale is a fairy tale starts out "Once upon a time..." Mail fraud my f*cking ass. No U.S. Attorney's office or any other law enforcement agency for that matter is going to devote a minute even thinking about this. Please don't post BULLSHIT. Thanks.


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I do tend to fit in well wherever I go in person.

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The campfire is the most outside exposure I get. No TV, no newspaper.
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I recently had the same issue arise. I waited 10 days for the check to clear before shipping. It was more than 3 weeks later when the check bounced. Who was it?

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It's a cost of doing business. Post his name so others don't get stung.


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Hey Brick, sorry I somehow managed to offend you. I was looking at the letter of the law, not what actually happens, attorneys do that sort of thing. As I stated in my post, reputation means more than anything else in a place like this, the worst punishment would be publishing the individual's name. If you have a problem with me, please bring it up in a private setting, I would be more than happy to speak with you.

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Originally Posted by Balkandom
Hey Brick, sorry I somehow managed to offend you. I was looking at the letter of the law, not what actually happens, attorneys do that sort of thing. As I stated in my post, reputation means more than anything else in a place like this, the worst punishment would be publishing the individual's name. If you have a problem with me, please bring it up in a private setting, I would be more than happy to speak with you.Mike


Good luck with that.


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Originally Posted by Balkandom
Hey Brick, sorry I somehow managed to offend you. I was looking at the letter of the law, not what actually happens, attorneys do that sort of thing. As I stated in my post, reputation means more than anything else in a place like this, the worst punishment would be publishing the individual's name. If you have a problem with me, please bring it up in a private setting, I would be more than happy to speak with you.

Mike
Naw, we can "speak" right here, right now. You post BULLSHIT, you get called on BULLSHIT. It's a simple concept. This f*cking ongoing fairy tale of "IT'S MAIL FRAUD" and "CALL THE COPS" is getting f*cking tired. Because as I understand these little BULLSHIT fairy tales -- and rest assured, they most certainly are BULLSHIT -- there is really no such thing as a "bad" deal or "hot check," is there? Why, according to the little roundheads who keep shouting and banging away at their keyboards, the cops and prosecutors are just standing by as we read this BULLSHIT, ready to jump up and kick in someone's door and collect your f*cking debt. Isn't that about right?

I mean, you have a legally-binding contract stating terms and responsibilities of the buyer, seller, and other interested parties, correct? And the "authorities" are there to do your bidding and mediate your civil dispute, right? A simple phone call or email will result in an IMMEDIATE arrest warrant, some "tac" team kicking in someone's door, shoving some dude's head in the [bleep] (a la "The Big Lebowski") and shouting "WHERE'S THE MONEY, [bleep]*CKER???!!!!" And then pissing on the rug.

What a load of BULLSHIT.


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